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emcee rib wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

emcee rib wrote:All this disarming and searching sounds like a good reason to get a nonresident license that doesn't show up on some antigun cop's computer. What the antigunners don't know can't be used to hurt me.

Doesn't Texas law require you to inform you are carrying whether you have a resident Texas CHL or some other state CHL?

No. There is no requirement to inform you are carrying. Not even for MPA.

There is a requirement to display a gun license under some circumstances, but I'm not sure what authority Texas has to compel someone to display a license issued by another state. Even before the law changed to drop the penalty, Texas would have had a tough time enforcing the statutory penalty in 411.187 on a Utah licensee.

A permit holder must provide his permit to a law enforcement officer when asked for ID. Sec.411.205.

I doubt I have ever had an official conversation with a LEO who didn't ask for ID. Sometimes I have ID, sometimes I don't.

sjfcontrol wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

emcee rib wrote:All this disarming and searching sounds like a good reason to get a nonresident license that doesn't show up on some antigun cop's computer. What the antigunners don't know can't be used to hurt me.

Doesn't Texas law require you to inform you are carrying whether you have a resident Texas CHL or some other state CHL?

I realize the penalty for not doing so has been deleted, but if the officer spots it but hasn't been told, there may be some unpleasantness.

The law only refers "license holder". So I'm guessing that would include out-of-state licenses. However, there is NO requirement to inform for MPA carry. And since the officer is very unlikely to know about other states licenses (unless you tell him), it would seem that not displaying and claiming MPA if discovered, would be a workable solution. IMO, IANAL.

Does the MPA allow you to have the weapon on your person, like in an IWB on your belt, or is it merely to have a loaded weapon in the car somewhere?

emcee rib wrote:All this disarming and searching sounds like a good reason to get a nonresident license that doesn't show up on some antigun cop's computer. What the antigunners don't know can't be used to hurt me.

Doesn't Texas law require you to inform you are carrying whether you have a resident Texas CHL or some other state CHL?

I realize the penalty for not doing so has been deleted, but if the officer spots it but hasn't been told, there may be some unpleasantness.

gigag04 wrote:

JALLEN wrote:My first reaction is that officer safety has nothing whatsoever to do with stolen guns.

Most of the guns that kill cops are stolen, but I generally see the point you are trying to make.

JALLEN wrote: If you have a TV in the back seat, do they run that to see if it is stolen? How about a bicycle?

Yup, as often as I can. Cleared about 15 burglaries last Christmas doing this. Obv it's not JUST a tv, there were many other things at work that lead me to believe the property might be stolen. Most interesting thing I checked and got a hit on the SN was a saxophone. Still, not a fan of a routine checking of all guns.

Most of the guns that kill officers are not possessed by CHL holders, I venture to guess. In fact I would guess it would be either few or none.

I suppose there are situations where experience leads you to suspect something amiss. I lead a sheltered life, on purpose, never possess stolen goods or drugs or open containers, or illegal machine guns, or anything I'm not supposed to have, etc. On those rare occasions when I am stopped, not even every ten years, the officer is in no more danger than he would be sitting in his favorite doughnut shop, warm and dry. I habitually tell the truth as I know it on all occasions. It is very hard for me to imagine being stopped, my journey delayed, my gun and all my possessions rifled through, all on this officer's completely unjustified wild goose chase based on nothing more than his hope that he might uncover something amiss.

Of course, it has never happened to me, so maybe some of these guys aren't as dumb as they look.

Quick question.... I see references to DPS. Is this the Highway Patrol, or as they say out here, CHP?

My first reaction is that officer safety has nothing whatsoever to do with stolen guns.

If you have a TV in the back seat, do they run that to see if it is stolen? How about a bicycle?

I'm prepared to give officers some slack on officer safety, since that is a genuine concern, but running serial numbers to check stolen seems a far stretch.