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- Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:48 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Glock 26 and pulling left
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Re: New Glock 26 and pulling left
Mr. VB: Sure enough not. I don't particularly remember where I learned not to do that, though . . . I probably just watched too many movies.
- Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:35 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Glock 26 and pulling left
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Re: New Glock 26 and pulling left
I made it back to the range this afternoon, and things went extremely well. The G26 and I made our peace.
There was probably an immediate 30% improvement in overall accuracy. I fired the usual 200 rounds and, when grouping was my goal, I had acceptable (for a week-old relationship with a new gun) groups. I started with some bulls, noticed a pronounced recoil-anticipation, worked at it through the first fifty rounds. I also focused more on finger placement and discovered--to my relief--that I just needed a tiny bit more finger on the trigger. I was becoming pretty concerned about the discomfort during some of my dry-firing through the weekend (to the point of wondering whether I was going to end up selling the gun), and found a the perfect spot (dead center of pad) while having ample grip to control recoil.
The second fifty rounds were phenomenal, and that's when everything came together: I ran a B27 out to seven or eight yards and put two full mags (excepting one round, which I pulled left to just inside the 9 circle) in the red. That included a few double-taps.
I tried to refrain from openly celebrating
The rest of the session was solid, though not as prodigious as rounds 50-100. I also tweaked my stance a bit (I prefer Weaver, though I've noticed a tendency to relax my grip-arm at the elbow, which also seems to cause severe accuracy concerns), and my next project (while monitoring trigger control) will have to be working-out recoil anticipation/muzzle flip.
Again, many thanks for all of the excellent advice, exercises and links. I'll revisit these posts on a regular basis.
There was probably an immediate 30% improvement in overall accuracy. I fired the usual 200 rounds and, when grouping was my goal, I had acceptable (for a week-old relationship with a new gun) groups. I started with some bulls, noticed a pronounced recoil-anticipation, worked at it through the first fifty rounds. I also focused more on finger placement and discovered--to my relief--that I just needed a tiny bit more finger on the trigger. I was becoming pretty concerned about the discomfort during some of my dry-firing through the weekend (to the point of wondering whether I was going to end up selling the gun), and found a the perfect spot (dead center of pad) while having ample grip to control recoil.
The second fifty rounds were phenomenal, and that's when everything came together: I ran a B27 out to seven or eight yards and put two full mags (excepting one round, which I pulled left to just inside the 9 circle) in the red. That included a few double-taps.
I tried to refrain from openly celebrating
The rest of the session was solid, though not as prodigious as rounds 50-100. I also tweaked my stance a bit (I prefer Weaver, though I've noticed a tendency to relax my grip-arm at the elbow, which also seems to cause severe accuracy concerns), and my next project (while monitoring trigger control) will have to be working-out recoil anticipation/muzzle flip.
Again, many thanks for all of the excellent advice, exercises and links. I'll revisit these posts on a regular basis.
- Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:10 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Glock 26 and pulling left
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Re: New Glock 26 and pulling left
Through some dry firing, I've identified a definite issue with my finger placement. With the Glock, I was gripping so that the trigger was nearly at the middle of my pad. Per Skiprr's advice, I adjusted my grip around proper finger placement and found the G26 to be very uncomfortable.
I went through the same process with my Sig 2022 and found a) My finger placement was nearly perfect (off by a little; the right edge of the trigger--and this is decocked--lay right down the first bend in my finger) b) the gun still felt better. Actually, it feels pretty great.
Given: I've spent 1000+ rounds more time with the Sig than with the G26, so there's still plenty of intro-time required. All things considered, I'll take my time getting to know my Glock, but if it becomes a distraction or point of concern, I'll investigate a Sig P250 or similar.
We'll see how my range visit plays out next week. If the light-bulb comes on, I'll post some target pics.
I went through the same process with my Sig 2022 and found a) My finger placement was nearly perfect (off by a little; the right edge of the trigger--and this is decocked--lay right down the first bend in my finger) b) the gun still felt better. Actually, it feels pretty great.
Given: I've spent 1000+ rounds more time with the Sig than with the G26, so there's still plenty of intro-time required. All things considered, I'll take my time getting to know my Glock, but if it becomes a distraction or point of concern, I'll investigate a Sig P250 or similar.
We'll see how my range visit plays out next week. If the light-bulb comes on, I'll post some target pics.
- Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:27 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Glock 26 and pulling left
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Re: New Glock 26 and pulling left
Also--not to go to far off topic--I should mention it has occurred to me to just go the Crossbreed/Minotaur route and make the Sig my EDC. My idea was mostly to use the Glock to acclimate myself to carrying, without any concerns for printing etc . . . though I also have the occasional need for ankle carry.
Which is not to say that I won't have an "occasional need" to carry both, if you ask me in a year.
Which is not to say that I won't have an "occasional need" to carry both, if you ask me in a year.
- Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:19 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Glock 26 and pulling left
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Re: New Glock 26 and pulling left
Thanks to everyone for the detailed, helpful responses. The Wheel of Misfortune is especially telling--I've caught (and corrected, through trial and error) poor form, and that chart would have saved me a lot of time (and ammo).
On my second or third mag yesterday, I *did* find myself thinking more about the amount of finger on the trigger. The adjustments I made (or tried to make) seemed to have the most effect on my results.
Skiprr-Factory sight-misalignment occurred to me--especially during the first twenty rounds, when I likely could have
missed hitting the barn from *inside*--but I've done a limited amount of very accurate (same hole) shooting with the G26 . . . yet haven't succeeded in isolating what causes my inconsistency. The info in your post *really* hit home, and I'm going
to implement all of those suggestions with snap caps before heading back to the range next week. Major thanks for the details and phenomenal advice.
I also see a lot of credence in Brandrum and Mike's suggestion of mixing snaps with live ammo (on the range, of course ), as the first thing I noticed upon my initial return to shooting was a hefty flinch. I've worked through a lot of it, but I do catch myself slipping off once in a while.
Ultimately, I think I'm having more trouble than anticipated adjusting to the DAO trigger. However smooth the Glock trigger may be, I erred in practicing through hundreds of rounds exclusively with the Sig's short-pull. A lot of that was just getting back into the saddle, eradicating the flinch etc. . . . now, I need to get down to business with trigger control. I also erroneously (and in my enthusiasm for buying a new gun) assumed that the G26 would be more friendly to my hand size, somehow failing to consider that it's a sub-compact designed for average-above-average sized hands. I certainly don't *regret* the purchase (or the choice to make the G26 my first CCW), but I am starting to see myself winding-up more toward the Sig side of the Sig v Glock fence.
Thanks again for the help/suggestions. I'll also mention this to the folks at my range (where I also purchased the Glock . . . Marksman in South Houston--the most gracious, patient staff I've encountered) and see if they have any ideas.
On my second or third mag yesterday, I *did* find myself thinking more about the amount of finger on the trigger. The adjustments I made (or tried to make) seemed to have the most effect on my results.
Skiprr-Factory sight-misalignment occurred to me--especially during the first twenty rounds, when I likely could have
missed hitting the barn from *inside*--but I've done a limited amount of very accurate (same hole) shooting with the G26 . . . yet haven't succeeded in isolating what causes my inconsistency. The info in your post *really* hit home, and I'm going
to implement all of those suggestions with snap caps before heading back to the range next week. Major thanks for the details and phenomenal advice.
I also see a lot of credence in Brandrum and Mike's suggestion of mixing snaps with live ammo (on the range, of course ), as the first thing I noticed upon my initial return to shooting was a hefty flinch. I've worked through a lot of it, but I do catch myself slipping off once in a while.
Ultimately, I think I'm having more trouble than anticipated adjusting to the DAO trigger. However smooth the Glock trigger may be, I erred in practicing through hundreds of rounds exclusively with the Sig's short-pull. A lot of that was just getting back into the saddle, eradicating the flinch etc. . . . now, I need to get down to business with trigger control. I also erroneously (and in my enthusiasm for buying a new gun) assumed that the G26 would be more friendly to my hand size, somehow failing to consider that it's a sub-compact designed for average-above-average sized hands. I certainly don't *regret* the purchase (or the choice to make the G26 my first CCW), but I am starting to see myself winding-up more toward the Sig side of the Sig v Glock fence.
Thanks again for the help/suggestions. I'll also mention this to the folks at my range (where I also purchased the Glock . . . Marksman in South Houston--the most gracious, patient staff I've encountered) and see if they have any ideas.
- Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:00 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: New Glock 26 and pulling left
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New Glock 26 and pulling left
Background: I grew up shooting and stopped while in my early teens, mostly to pursue other interests. A couple of months back, I suddenly remembered how much I'd enjoyed target shooting and figured to give it a spin for the first time in nearly ten years. I'd also had an on-off-on interest in getting my CHL, so I decided to buy my first semi-auto pistol (I grew up around staunch revolver shooters) and work toward feeling comfortable enough with my gun to get a carry license. (Class last week; paperwork under review at DPS as we "speak")
My gun of choice was the Sig 2022 9mm. I hit the range once a week (on average), firing 200rnds per session (more, when finances permit) and have the utmost confidence in my ability with that gun. I'm not competition-ready, but I'm pretty solid at 7-10 yards and not horrible up to 15 yards. It didn't take long for my old stance to return, and I'm improving by baby steps now that my foundation is reestablished.
Due to my small frame and unfortunate (by that, I mean "chubby") body shape, I decided against carrying the Sig until I'm more experienced with concealed carry. So, earlier this week, I picked up a G26, cleaned it up and took it to the range. I put 200rnds through on the first day and another 200 earlier today--I'm not wild about the ergonomics (my hands are far below average in size), but things are only getting better.
Still, I'm consistently missing to the left of center--up to six inches (at 7-8 yards), sometimes even a bit more. I initially had similar problems with the Sig and corrected it by working harder at trigger control, putting extra effort in smooth squeezing and not pulling at the last moment. I was better today (left the Sig at home and focused on the G26), even managed some groups that somewhat surprised me, but I also had some ugly misses.
Eventually, I plan to utilize some of the aftermarket G26 grip provisions (either a mag sleeve or the pinky extenders), but I'd rather not cheat by jumping to that--since I'll be carrying this gun for six months to a year before I start shopping for a larger carry piece (I was barely out the door with the Glock before I'd started drooling over the Sig P220), I want to be very, very solid with it.
Since I've had basically the same problem (that being the left-side pulling) with both guns, I wanted to see if anyone has any tips and/or exercises that can help me identify my error and work it out of my system. I quit using B27 targets and have been working with smaller practice targets. That has helped a bit, but it's still not uncommon for me to put a few outside of the outer circle. Am I just used to being babied by the SA Sig trigger? Not pulling my hair out over it (yet), just thought I'd check with some other shooters as opposed to beating my head against the wall while waiting for my CHL to arrive.
My gun of choice was the Sig 2022 9mm. I hit the range once a week (on average), firing 200rnds per session (more, when finances permit) and have the utmost confidence in my ability with that gun. I'm not competition-ready, but I'm pretty solid at 7-10 yards and not horrible up to 15 yards. It didn't take long for my old stance to return, and I'm improving by baby steps now that my foundation is reestablished.
Due to my small frame and unfortunate (by that, I mean "chubby") body shape, I decided against carrying the Sig until I'm more experienced with concealed carry. So, earlier this week, I picked up a G26, cleaned it up and took it to the range. I put 200rnds through on the first day and another 200 earlier today--I'm not wild about the ergonomics (my hands are far below average in size), but things are only getting better.
Still, I'm consistently missing to the left of center--up to six inches (at 7-8 yards), sometimes even a bit more. I initially had similar problems with the Sig and corrected it by working harder at trigger control, putting extra effort in smooth squeezing and not pulling at the last moment. I was better today (left the Sig at home and focused on the G26), even managed some groups that somewhat surprised me, but I also had some ugly misses.
Eventually, I plan to utilize some of the aftermarket G26 grip provisions (either a mag sleeve or the pinky extenders), but I'd rather not cheat by jumping to that--since I'll be carrying this gun for six months to a year before I start shopping for a larger carry piece (I was barely out the door with the Glock before I'd started drooling over the Sig P220), I want to be very, very solid with it.
Since I've had basically the same problem (that being the left-side pulling) with both guns, I wanted to see if anyone has any tips and/or exercises that can help me identify my error and work it out of my system. I quit using B27 targets and have been working with smaller practice targets. That has helped a bit, but it's still not uncommon for me to put a few outside of the outer circle. Am I just used to being babied by the SA Sig trigger? Not pulling my hair out over it (yet), just thought I'd check with some other shooters as opposed to beating my head against the wall while waiting for my CHL to arrive.