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VMI77 wrote:

CoffeeNut wrote:

Bullitt wrote:

Bullitt wrote:My employer just announced 30.07 signage and also 30.06 signage since all this open carry crap brought it to their attention. To those of you living in the "conceptual" world instead of the "practical" world, THANKS FOR NOTHING!

Oh! And I forgot to mention we are having layoffs because oil prices are in the _______, now more than ever is when CHL is needed. Thanks Bozos!

How is it the fault of those that support open carry that your place of employment is now posted not only 30.07 but 30.06 as well? When a business takes advantage of something like open carry in order to fully express their anti-gun views I don't necessarily blame those that are for open carry, rather I blame the business that decided they could get away with finally expressing their views. When I can go to a liberal place like Trader Joes and see a 30.07 sign right next to a sign saying CC is good to go it really makes me think that those now posting both were just anxiously waiting for an opportunity to post without backlash. Can we blame OC for this? Sure, but I'd rather redirect the blame onto the businesses that would rather see patrons die in their store than have someone defend themselves, otherwise the pro-gun movement in Texas is just going to tear itself apart.

If you feel your place of employment is now at greater risk of a shooting from a disgruntled employee maybe you should voice your complaints to management. What's the harm in doing so especially when they've already got legal signs up?

It happened with my employer too and my company is about as conservative as a company can get. I don't think they were looking for an excuse as CC had been explicitly endorsed by the company for years. I think he's right that 30.07 precipitated lawyer involvement and lawyer involvement led to banning everything...just in case.

I don't think the risk of workplace violence at my place of employment is any different that it always has been (neglecting possible acts of terrorism which I consider unlikely) but should one occur my ability to defend myself has definitely been greatly diminished.

Bullitt wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Since you indicated you are also frustrated with your employer, have you brought your concerns to their attention and addresses them as bozos?

I'm not accountable to you for what I discuss with my employer. However, they will be getting some healthy advice from me on the matter. Fortunately I am a manager and will be listened to, though I doubt I will get my way. That's not the point...

The point is once again you (or others) are conceptualizing based on what you feel is right or wrong, instead of living in the practicalities of the real world in having to deal with this issue. If open carry results in even one restriction of concealed carry, which it has, then the passing of open carry has served no purpose whatsoever. It is a Pyrric victory, and y'all have egg over your faces. Just admit it has been nothing more than a law passed to satisfy the egos of those who wanted to advertise that they carry a gun. It was stupid. THANKS A LOT!

Bullitt wrote:

mojo84 wrote:
I understand your frustration. Other than just because carrying of weapons was brought to light, why did your company decide 30.06 signs were needed at this point? There is a pretty good 20 year track record that shows they are not needed for improved safety.

The passage of open carry has brought the signs to the forefront and the open carry goons did public relations damage. However, it seems your employer is making an irrational decision by deciding now to put up 30.06 signs. Shouldn't you be more frustrated with your employer instead?

First of all, who says I am not frustrated with my employer over this? Again, you are living in the conceptual world, not the practical world. Second, corporations have lawyers. They get wind of 30.07 and then decide they better put up 30.06 as well just to cover their asses. These are corporations we are talking about, and if you think they are Conservative because they are oil companies, guess again amigo.

Bullitt wrote:My employer just announced 30.07 signage and also 30.06 signage since all this open carry crap brought it to their attention. To those of you living in the "conceptual" world instead of the "practical" world, THANKS FOR NOTHING!