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extremist wrote:

mojo84 wrote: So, you don't believe in liberty because you do believe in some infringements, restrictions and limits.

Instead of saying people don't believe in liberty, how about saying there is some disagreement where one's liberty can be limited, infringed or restricted? Your all or nothing is ridiculous even based upon your admitted believe there are limits.

That's a specious argument. I'm not an anarchist, one can believe in complete liberty, with self-limiting behavior based on the principles I quoted above. It's a ridiculous argument to say "that if you have have full liberty there are no restrictions or limits". No, that's anarchy.

extremist wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Just curious. Do you believe to have liberty we be able to do anything we want and how we want without any infringement, restrictions or limits?

If so, should I be allowed to pursue happiness any way I want?

There are very few100% absolutes in this world.

Yes I do as long as it doesn't violate the Non-Agression principle and abides by Universal Preferable Behavior. I subscribe to the Non-Aggression principle championed by Stefan Molyneux. If you are unfamiliar with the concept, he has multiple videos on it. Here is one of his shorter ones:



Also a good source of info: http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Principle_of_non-aggression

Universal Preferable Behavior: http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/fe ... ux_PDF.pdf

extremist wrote:Personally, I think there is no convincing one side or the other. You either believe in Liberty (all of it) or you don't. Based on Charles' comment a few posts back, it is understood that Heller allows the FedGov to "infringe" on the 2nd, and we all accept that.

I still believe the 2nd says what it says, "Shall not be infringed".

That means I believe everything, starting with NFA '34 should go.

It may never happen, but that is what I believe.

James

Furthermore, Trump proposed a national right to carry, a national concealed carry reciprocity law that would compel states to recognize the concealed carry permits of any other state, similar to the way in which state driver’s licenses are accepted by all states today.

Finally, Trump would lift the prohibition on military members carrying weapons on military bases and in recruiting centers, allowing trained military members to carry weapons to protect themselves from attacks by terrorists, criminals and the mentally unstable, as we have seen too often.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Courtesy of Stickland.

https://empowertexans.com/features/stic ... egislation

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (R–Bedford) filed “constitutional carry” legislation to remove the licensing requirement for Texans to carry a handgun openly or concealed. Stickland’s bill, HB 375, would maintain the licensing process for citizens who wish to obtain a license and enjoy reciprocity in other states.
“It is time in Texas to restore our Second Amendment rights to their originally intended level,” said Stickland. “No Texan should have to pay a fee or take a class to exercise their right to bear arms.”

Stickland is not the standard bearer I want for this or any other bill. He has little to no respect from other legislators. The only ones that seem to have any real respect for him are other legislators that have been marginalized either due to their own actions or the House Leadership.

Getting a bill filed is relatively easy. The key to success is having a bill filed by someone who is respected in the House or Senate and who has the clout to 1) get committee hearings, 2) get supportive votes in the committee so as to get it out of committee; 3) get a bill out of the Calendar's Committee in the House or the requisite number of votes in the Senate to suspend the rules; and 4) get his/her colleagues to vote for the bill on the floor.

Chas.

I believe our points are similar. You disagree or are you expounding upon what I said?

I agree with your post completely. I was expounding on your comments.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Courtesy of Stickland.

https://empowertexans.com/features/stic ... egislation

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (R–Bedford) filed “constitutional carry” legislation to remove the licensing requirement for Texans to carry a handgun openly or concealed. Stickland’s bill, HB 375, would maintain the licensing process for citizens who wish to obtain a license and enjoy reciprocity in other states.
“It is time in Texas to restore our Second Amendment rights to their originally intended level,” said Stickland. “No Texan should have to pay a fee or take a class to exercise their right to bear arms.”

Stickland is not the standard bearer I want for this or any other bill. He has little to no respect from other legislators. The only ones that seem to have any real respect for him are other legislators that have been marginalized either due to their own actions or the House Leadership.

Getting a bill filed is relatively easy. The key to success is having a bill filed by someone who is respected in the House or Senate and who has the clout to 1) get committee hearings, 2) get supportive votes in the committee so as to get it out of committee; 3) get a bill out of the Calendar's Committee in the House or the requisite number of votes in the Senate to suspend the rules; and 4) get his/her colleagues to vote for the bill on the floor.

Chas.

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (R–Bedford) filed “constitutional carry” legislation to remove the licensing requirement for Texans to carry a handgun openly or concealed. Stickland’s bill, HB 375, would maintain the licensing process for citizens who wish to obtain a license and enjoy reciprocity in other states.
“It is time in Texas to restore our Second Amendment rights to their originally intended level,” said Stickland. “No Texan should have to pay a fee or take a class to exercise their right to bear arms.”