The problem is that the State Fair officials deny access to the Cotton Bowl by CHL holders at any time, even when there is no sporting event taking place, based on that sentence in the law.Kalrog wrote:I had a similar experience with the Travis County expo center and the rode there. Because of the way the law is written, I was able to carry everywhere except in the expo center while the rodeo part was happening. But 5 minutes later when the concert started, I could carry there as well. Strange law, but that isn't unusual.jimlongley wrote:Besides this latest fracas, which may or may not be settled, I have always wondered about their Cotton Bowl prohibition. Since the law is written in the present tense, should I assume, from their prohibition, that the Cotton Bowl has sporting events taking place 24/7 during the State Fair?
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- Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:41 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 2007 State Fair of Texas - Important CHL Update
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- Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:43 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Besides this latest fracas, which may or may not be settled, I have always wondered about their Cotton Bowl prohibition. Since the law is written in the present tense, should I assume, from their prohibition, that the Cotton Bowl has sporting events taking place 24/7 during the State Fair?Charles L. Cotton wrote:I found the answer to my question. The State Fair is held on a 277 acre city park, so CHL's cannot legally be barred access with a handgun. Since TPC 30.06 doesn't apply to government-owned property, and since TPC 30.05 cannot be used to exclude a CHL based solely on the fact that the person has a handgun and a CHL, then there is no basis for an arrest. I hope DPD and the officers understand their exposure for making a blatantly illegal arrest.
CHL/LEO, thanks for posting this warning and please understand my comments aren't directed at you.
Also, the State Fair website still shows CHL's can bring guns. Here is a copy of the information on their website:
Here is a link: http://www.bigtex.com/generalinfo/faqs/bring.htmlCan I bring...
...a wagon? Yes.
Small children may be pulled in a wagon.
...a bicycle, skateboard or roller skates? No.
The Fair draws large crowds. In the interest of overall safety for our guests, we ask that you do not bring skateboards, scooters, roller skates and other wheeled forms of transportation inside the gates (wagons to transport small children are approved).
...a gun? No, with one exception.
A person holding a valid concealed handgun license is permitted to enter onto State Fair property with his/her concealed handgun. Licenses will be examined at the entrance by an authorized security supervisor. Handguns will not be permitted inside the Cotton Bowl, a facility defined under Texas Penal Code 46.035 as "the premises where a high school, collegiate or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place." We want the Fair to be a fun and safe experience.
- Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:48 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Well, I guess my letter to the Dallas Morning News was wasted effort.
Actually, I almost hope they publish it, this morning's paper had a big article about the fair opening, across the fold, and the editorial page started off with "Let us talk you into a visit with Big Tex" and several reasons in the form of "Beef and reality" so I stated my beef and the reality that I would influence everyone I could to NOT attend the fair due to this unfair and discriminatory practice on the part of fair management.

Actually, I almost hope they publish it, this morning's paper had a big article about the fair opening, across the fold, and the editorial page started off with "Let us talk you into a visit with Big Tex" and several reasons in the form of "Beef and reality" so I stated my beef and the reality that I would influence everyone I could to NOT attend the fair due to this unfair and discriminatory practice on the part of fair management.