It's still the same specious arguement that the antis use, if guns on campus are properly stored then the more likely scenario is that thieves will get the bullets first, if they are not properly stored, it will surely be a criminal offense. Either way the ready supply scenario is unlikely.Lucky45 wrote:Hey Jim, I think I could have been a little more clearer, but when I was referring to carry on campus, I meant it in the plain english sense of it. Meaning students will then be allowed to have firearms in their main residence on campus if the law is changed to allow firearms in buildings. Right now, no one can.jimlongley wrote: Concealed means just that, and this arguement that concealed carry provides a ready supply of guns to criminals is the one trotted out by the anti-CHL crownd over and over, and it's wrong. Closer to the truth is that a criminal would not know, by simple observation, who was or was not armed, just as it is in Texas today.
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- Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:15 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: MSNBC poll on allowing students to carry on campus
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- Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:42 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: MSNBC poll on allowing students to carry on campus
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Concealed means just that, and this arguement that concealed carry provides a ready supply of guns to criminals is the one trotted out by the anti-CHL crownd over and over, and it's wrong. Closer to the truth is that a criminal would not know, by simple observation, who was or was not armed, just as it is in Texas today.Lucky45 wrote:My concern with have carry on campus is that it would provide a better place for the criminal minded to gain access to guns. Right now the only SURE place is a gun store.
I think we have to open our minds to life on campus in 2007. Not all universities are fenced in compounds in the boonies. Some campuses are smack in the middle of a hustling, bustling, metropolitan city where all kinds pass though some way or the other.
1. Imagine parking lots with a sea of cars where you can just smash and grab a gun. Just go down the line, you are bound to find someone leaving theres in the vehicle, since they don't want to carry it. So odds are good.
2. Imagine a dorm where anyone can just walk in a dorm and break-in a room and search for a gun. One of those rooms have to have one. Did they carry it or did they leave it? Odds are good.
3. Is everyone going to carrying all the time? Really? What about practice? football, track, basketball, etc, etc,etc. I think tuition just went up because you need some armories around campus. Teams leave campuses for days, so will they be carrying across state lines? (CALIFORNIA) So we need burglar-proof dorms now. Odds are good.
So it not that easy to say allow carry on campus. Concealed carry is one thing, but the average joe having theirs lying around campus will be like using honey to attract bees.
Just food for thought.
By the way, I have no problem with CHL on campus. For painted ones circling the wagon.
Now arguements could be made that someone could get access to the school's database of CHLs, but that just means that the school shouldn't have one, or that they will steal them from the locker room, but that just means that the CHLer will have to be more diligent about storing the gun than the average jock, same goes for them storing the gun in the car or the room, and then there's the possibility that the felon trying to steal the gun would run into someone with their gun on them.