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jimlongley wrote: Concealed means just that, and this arguement that concealed carry provides a ready supply of guns to criminals is the one trotted out by the anti-CHL crownd over and over, and it's wrong. Closer to the truth is that a criminal would not know, by simple observation, who was or was not armed, just as it is in Texas today.

Hey Jim, I think I could have been a little more clearer, but when I was referring to carry on campus, I meant it in the plain english sense of it. Meaning students will then be allowed to have firearms in their main residence on campus if the law is changed to allow firearms in buildings. Right now, no one can.

My concern with have carry on campus is that it would provide a better place for the criminal minded to gain access to guns. Right now the only SURE place is a gun store.
I think we have to open our minds to life on campus in 2007. Not all universities are fenced in compounds in the boonies. Some campuses are smack in the middle of a hustling, bustling, metropolitan city where all kinds pass though some way or the other.
1. Imagine parking lots with a sea of cars where you can just smash and grab a gun. Just go down the line, you are bound to find someone leaving theres in the vehicle, since they don't want to carry it. So odds are good.
2. Imagine a dorm where anyone can just walk in a dorm and break-in a room and search for a gun. One of those rooms have to have one. Did they carry it or did they leave it? Odds are good.
3. Is everyone going to carrying all the time? Really? What about practice? football, track, basketball, etc, etc,etc. I think tuition just went up because you need some armories around campus. Teams leave campuses for days, so will they be carrying across state lines? (CALIFORNIA) So we need burglar-proof dorms now. Odds are good.


So it not that easy to say allow carry on campus. Concealed carry is one thing, but the average joe having theirs lying around campus will be like using honey to attract bees.

Just food for thought.
By the way, I have no problem with CHL on campus. For painted ones circling the wagon.

NcongruNt wrote: Any thoughts?
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I agree with you. I didn't read your your post til now, but I posted in another discussion and here is a copy.

Lucky45 wrote:
I think one of the new info that is coming out is that the guy has a couple mental episodes. I think that is where he kinda got through the loop hole in obtaining the guns. I think for TX CHL they have "mental episodes" as a disqualifier for obtaining a CHL. I don't know VA law, but if states could cross check people with the "NUT HOUSE" when purchasing guns or CHL then you could cut out a large percentage of these unstable people to begin with.
That could be a change they make in their procedures to have ATF cross check applicants with the NUT HOUSE.