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by donkey
Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Alliance air show - again.
Replies: 61
Views: 11584

Re: Alliance air show - again.

C-dub wrote:
wheelgun1958 wrote:The area past the fence onto the ramp and flight line are under the authority of the Federal Aviation Administration. Akin to the USPS, not being bound by TX law. I wouldn't carry past the fence. Just sayin'.
Exactly!

All of Love Field and DFW are owned by Dallas or a group of cities. Most of our large airports are city owned. How many of you folks saying that 30.06 doesn't matter because it is property owned by the city want to try and see how far into the secure area you can get with your gun? This airshow is too much of a gray area for me. I would not risk it. I don't have the money to fight it and don't want to risk losing big time if I'm wrong.

They don't need to post 30.06 signs, but they are as a reminder. Maybe they are unenforceable. IDK

Are there any other statutorily off limits places that are okay when there is a certain type of event going on?
Just because their is a fence at an airport doesn't mean the area on the other side is automatically a "secure area". You would need to talk to Alliance an find out exactly what portions of the airport have been designated as AOAs or SIDAs. Federal laws apply in these areas and weapons are not allowed. The 30.06 signs are not valid as the state of Texas says the only "secured area" is in the terminal building. They should be posting signs that cite federal law.
by donkey
Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:26 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Alliance air show - again.
Replies: 61
Views: 11584

Re: Alliance air show - again.

Zoti wrote:
I think you are on to something however, if it a secured area then you should also not be able to bring in nail clippers and liquids.
The State of Texas defines the "secured area of an airport" as:
PC 46.03 wrote:“Secured area” means an area of an airport terminal building to
which access is controlled by the inspection of persons and property under federal law.
The Texas law seems to only apply to the terminal building and not to the flight line. Alliance could argue that the area hosting the airshow is normally in the Air Operations Area (AOA) and thus federal law comes into play. Of course if this is a federal issue then the 30.06 signs have no bearing. It would be very entertaining to hear Alliance's reasoning on this.
by donkey
Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Alliance air show - again.
Replies: 61
Views: 11584

Re: Alliance air show - again.

Zoti wrote:
Someone should really challenge them.
I'd like to see their reply. I bet they'll try to reference the "secured area" of airports mentioned in the list of prohibited places.

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