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mojo84 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:34 am

mayor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:33 am

mojo84 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:13 am

mayor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:07 am

I like the idea of just leaving and report a theft.

Give this a shot and let us know how it works out for you.

I didn't say it is a good idea.

I guess I misinterpreted, "I like the idea of just leaving and report a theft."

mojo84 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:13 am

mayor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:07 am

I like the idea of just leaving and report a theft.

Give this a shot and let us know how it works out for you.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:01 am

mayor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:35 am

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:37 am

rotor wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:32 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:25 pm If they would toss me or any other citizen out for wearing a gun, why shouldn't they kick out gun-toting cops without a uniform? Cop can either cover it or leave it in the car, just like the rest of us. Seems like he is just looking for special treatment. We've known how so many of them get turned off about the "Do you know who I am?" defense. This time the shoe is on the other foot.

So because they don't respect our constitutional rights they should treat law enforcement just as poorly? I can see us having the same rights to carry as law enforcement and I don't think a LTC holder or LEO should be asked to leave especially when there is no posting. Dump Whataburger. If they don't want open carry they should post. This has been covered many times on this forum.

Sure, they have property rights, but how about they have enough respect for their customers to post 30.07 signs, to save their customers the embarrassment of being kicked out of one of their stores? This stuff cuts both ways. Whataburger does have a right to enforce its dress code, but it ALSO has a moral duty to inform its paying customers of that dress code, via the mandated-by-law signage .......then everybody is happy, no employee is placed in the position of having to eject an armed person, and no LTC holder will be publicly embarrassed. There’s rights, and then there’s “the right thing to do”. Whataburger has rights, but they’re not doing the right thing.

In ‘N Out is better anyway.

I wasn't embarrassed by being asked to leave. I was ticked because, I'd already ordered and was there with friends. I asked for my refund and left. No drama, no rudeness. So did several of my friends. The situation could have been avoided with a 30.07 sign.

Instead of asking for a refund (which meant that you did not immediately leave upon receiving verbal notice), you could have just walked out and then reported the theft of your money to the police. That would have been interesting. Or if you had paid via credit card, and didn't want the drama, a credit card charge back would have been appropriate. In any event, if someone asks me to leave, I leave. I don't stick around for any reason at all.

I agree with others in this thread that the same policy should apply to LEO's, especially plain clothes. If private property rights trump the right of a fellow citizen to carry, then why would they not also trump the rights of your employees, the local LEO's? If anything, you should have more stringent requirements for those who actually work for you.

I am split on the signage. Some sign would be nice, but it doesn't necessarily need to be a compliant 30.07 sign. A simple "please cover up your guns" gets the message across and can be followed up with verbal notice if needed.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:37 am

rotor wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:32 pm

Liberty wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:25 pm If they would toss me or any other citizen out for wearing a gun, why shouldn't they kick out gun-toting cops without a uniform? Cop can either cover it or leave it in the car, just like the rest of us. Seems like he is just looking for special treatment. We've known how so many of them get turned off about the "Do you know who I am?" defense. This time the shoe is on the other foot.

So because they don't respect our constitutional rights they should treat law enforcement just as poorly? I can see us having the same rights to carry as law enforcement and I don't think a LTC holder or LEO should be asked to leave especially when there is no posting. Dump Whataburger. If they don't want open carry they should post. This has been covered many times on this forum.

Sure, they have property rights, but how about they have enough respect for their customers to post 30.07 signs, to save their customers the embarrassment of being kicked out of one of their stores? This stuff cuts both ways. Whataburger does have a right to enforce its dress code, but it ALSO has a moral duty to inform its paying customers of that dress code, via the mandated-by-law signage .......then everybody is happy, no employee is placed in the position of having to eject an armed person, and no LTC holder will be publicly embarrassed. There’s rights, and then there’s “the right thing to do”. Whataburger has rights, but they’re not doing the right thing.

In ‘N Out is better anyway.