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Charlies.Contingency wrote:

EEllis wrote:

MONGOOSE wrote:

Abraham wrote:An acquaintance, who is a Sheriffs Deputy, won't carry an ASP, but has great faith in a fixed length baton.

Another, a friend in a local PD filled me in on his use of an ASP and says he found it less than adequate for subduing...

Worthless

It's not worthless but a pain compliance device. Batons are too light and skinny to do real damage to limbs that would make someone unable to function. For the most part this is by design as the older leaded wood batons can cause real physical damage and death at a much higher rate than modern batons.

My baton is not meant to "damage" or "kill," but it is very good for using against "meaty" targets, such as the thighs, biceps, calves, etc. It's not going to kill somebody, but an instant charlie horse to the thigh may get compliance through pain and discomfort. I would not exactly call it a tool of self defense.

Captain Matt wrote:

Ace_Inthe_O wrote:It looks like you would be ok to carry it in your car

But what happens if you have to step out of your car?