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speedsix wrote:...if you think a minor polite correction when you mis-state something is "trolling"...you need to learn some internet etiquette...this forum is to give those who ask CORRECT and HELPFUL information...details matter...that was uncalled for and Salty1 is a respected member who has EARNED the respect...some haven't yet...

...I see by your edit you've re-thought it a bit...great...

yes, I need to remember to not write posts while being distracted at work. while trying to multi-task I saw a response, it was clearly far more researched than the OP let on, and I didn't notice correctly that the name wasn't the OP. I thought, "what the " and then after I hit submit I saw my error and thought, "son of a " and edited it as fast as I could. So, if I had been right about the names then it would have been trolling - but I wasn't. My mistake. You'd think I would remember to double check that stuff having had to learn to do so when I made a similar mistake some 18 years ago on usenet.

Salty1 wrote:A non-FFL cannot use the U.S Post Office to ship handguns. They must use either UPS or Fedex next day delivery,

You can ship long guns USPS, but true, not handguns. handguns are contract carrier. I wasn't thinking a specific gun type when writing it, sorry.

Salty1 wrote:overnight priority is not required, just next day delivery.

which is why I said, "I think" and also told you to be sure to check with the shipper.

[edited - I sounded a little smart-assy so I added a smiley to tone it down]

saltydog452 wrote:Thanks.

First sentence, first paragraph, you used the word 'mail'. 'mail' is the US Postal Service. Is that what you intended?

ty.

sd.

yes. USPS, UPS, FedEx, any of them can be used to ship it - each have their own requirements so just check with their websites. it might be worth a quick call to the P.O. you plan to ship from. The last pistol I shipped out of my P.O. had the right paperwork with it but the clerk insisted I couldn't "just ship it like that". She spent the next 12 minutes gathering people and looking through the books (I know what it says but they have to figure it out for themselves sometimes). She eventually came back, took the package as is, and all was good. Not all shipping clerks (or others in the organization) know what the deal is so you might save yourself some hassle by knowing what to expect when you drop it off.

saltydog452 wrote:Those were the words that I used the search feature looking for answers. Lots of opinions and 'I did this, but...' posts but not too much regarding definitive take it to the bank answers.

So, how do I ship a handgun to a 'smith for repair. Its a gunwrench, not a factory. Is a copy of his license necesary as has been stated, or not?

Related, but not quite the same, how would a person ship a handgun, or any legally owned firearm, to an out of state training facility? That place could be Gunsite, Mas in Sierra Vista, or Camp Perry, or??? These wouldn't be sent for repair but for competition a/o training. A significant bunch of ammunition would need to be sent to the same destination.

salty

You can mail the gun to your gunsmith directly since he is an FFL. Each carrier will have specific shipping requirements - check their websites. I think they all require non-FFLs (you, presumably) to ship overnight air. Always send it adult signature required. Your gunsmith can mail the gun back to you directly. no 4473 is required of gunsmiths for returning repairs. Since he is an FFL, he will be able to ship it back to you much more inexpensively. You *must not* identify the package as containing a firearm in any way! [edit: I'm not a gunsmith - so any gunsmiths here please advise on gunsmith specifics I may have missed]

As for including the FFL in the package, you can include his if you want, but it's not required. I always include a copy of my FFL in guns I ship, however. I'd suggest you do include it, just in case something happens it may help expedite resolution.

For shipping guns out of state for training, you may ship a gun to a different address as long as it is to yourself. you must address the package "to" or "care of" you at the other address and only you may open the package. This is the federal requirement, make sure you check state laws on the issue. if you're talking about something like Gunsite, I don't think you have any state issues with arizona. I'm sure these places deal with this all the time and would be happy to offer advice. You would also then return ship the gun to yourself at your address.

For shipping ammunition, you can ship ammo, properly boxed, via ground carrier only, wherever you like. Unlike guns, you must declare the package as ammo/hazardous material and the carrier will have hazmat fees that will be tacked on. If this is for a training school, I've heard that places like gunsite have ammo on hand and that it's actually very competitively priced. That would certainly more than make up for the hazmat fees you'll pay to ship it.