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Charles L. Cotton wrote:

safety1 wrote:

Srnewby wrote:Before anyone loses hope that OC will get passed, I would note that Charles has been absent from these conversations for several days and the last comment I saw from him is that OC will pass. I am hopeful that something is being worked out in the background that none of us is aware of yet. I won't give up hope until such time as Charles says OC is dead for this session.

I agree, until Charles says its dead......its still alive! I will contiune to make calls until i hear otherwise.

Open-carry is fine and even HB308 has some life left in it. Srnewby is correct, something is working so watch the horizon. Since we know the opposition reads the Forum, and that there are even moles among us, I can't say more at this point. I spent the day in Austin today.

Chas.

Glad to hear 308 still has a chance, I'll be watching for any calls to action on it or 910 if it will still help.

Papa_Tiger wrote:

Wes wrote:I don't think he is necessarily saying a chl holder. Any crime that is discovered because a person was stopped for open carrying, even open carrying itself, could be tossed out because the cop did not have cause to stop the person. CHL aside. Imagine a murder suspect who was picked up just for properly openly carrying and the arrest and murder weapon is tossed out in court because the evidence was illegally obtained. Thus a murderer might go free. DA most certainly won't be happy. Now, I'm no lawyer but I beleive this to be what he is saying, and honestly it makes sense to me.

If it is a murder suspect, they already have probable cause to stop you - you match the description of a person of interest.

That's why I said "the only reason", if he matched a description of a person of interest then open carrying isn't the only reason.

I'm not saying it will happen, I'm just saying that as described before me was a situation that could. I personally don't think any of it will be an issue. You might hear a few news clips about it in January, but by February I bet we hear nothing.

Just show your ID if asked when you open carry. They aren't trying to harras you and be honest, it does not put you out to comply. I would show, no reason not to. (Enter conspiracy theorist to claim evil will befall me because I showed Id when I didn't have to)

The bill and amendments are Imo just fine. I look forward to it. Do I wish other bills passed instead? Sure. Do I think ultimately we should have unlicensed carry? Sure. I can take this as a win for now though.

I don't think he is necessarily saying a chl holder. Any crime that is discovered because a person was stopped for open carrying, even open carrying itself, could be tossed out because the cop did not have cause to stop the person. CHL aside. Imagine a murder suspect who was picked up just for properly openly carrying and the arrest and murder weapon is tossed out in court because the evidence was illegally obtained. Thus a murderer might go free. DA most certainly won't be happy. Now, I'm no lawyer but I beleive this to be what he is saying, and honestly it makes sense to me.