Well, I throw my two cents in…
First of all let me state I’m all for carry in schools. But I don’t think it’s the answer to this scenario. Part of a tiered approach…yes, but not a stand alone solution.
My nightmare isn’t the untrained Jihadist want-a-be that gets with 3 or 4 friends and decides to take a school down. My nightmare involves trained and determined Jihad warriors. These guys/gals trained for months under trainers every bit as good as the ones in the US. They learned explosives, rifles (auto and semi), pistols, knifes, intel gathering, attack methodologies, and many other fine arts of war. Are they Ninja’s or supermen? No, but they’ve probably had more trigger time and as good training as our metro SWAT. Maybe they’ve done a tour or two in Iraq or Afghanistan, they’re not push-overs. They were picked because they were the best. Some of them came into the US through Canada, some through Mexico, but none came through customs since their names are on the watch list. They brought their weapons with them for multiple reasons, but primarily because they couldn’t procure automatics and explosives without attracting too much attention.
They know their target. They have floor plans (ain’t the internet great) and videos they’ve been studying, and the two leaders have even been in the school both during the day and after hours. The take over is carefully planned, and they realize they have to use extreme force against any resistance. There is no escape plan because they know there not getting out of this alive.
Why would they hit our schools? Because they’re soft targets with high impact potential, and here’s a key point that’s often forgotten, in their mind children are a legitimate target during war…and it doesn’t mater whether they’re Christian, Jewish, atheist, or Muslim.
Just prior to the take down they create a disturbance across town, maybe a bomb, a shooting, anything that would draw away the first responders. The point is the first responders are in the wrong place when the school is taken down. That buys them time to consolidate their hold and set up defenses.
When they enter, anyone who even verbally challenges them (“Hey, what are you doing?�) is immediately shot. Speed of the take down and maximum terror are important. They have to gain control of the hostage’s minds before they get a chance to think.
And into that, we’re going to place teachers with concealed handguns, against trained terrorist with automatic weapons? Granted, it’s better then nothing, but just barely. Sure, they can go down like Vikings, and maybe take one or two terrorist with them. But then the remaining terrorist will just shoot every adult immediately, and they still end up with the kids…
As I said above, arm teachers and administrators, during the majority of active shooter scenarios it drastically increases the kids chances of survival, but not for a terrorist attack. Let Venus take her pistol to work, and if she’s willing, pay for weapons training with some of the fine folks on this forum, none of it at her expense. Heck, I’ll volunteer my services free of charge as I suspect a lot of folks on this forum would (not that I know much, I don't, but even little things can make a difference)
But for terrorist attacks I think we need to copy the Israeli model…trained folks in the school with automatic weapons and communications. The armed teachers are the last line of defense.
The parents also take some responsibility. I saw mothers, fathers, uncles, and just concerned citizens on their day off grab their weapons and go on field trips with their children. Some rode on the busses, some drove their own cars so the kids traveled in convoy fashion. I saw employers grant paid time off to be escorts for school trips or to cover events. In some areas, the ratio was one armed adult to 5 children, and the children knew what to do in the event of an attack. That sure doesn’t sound like here…
Why haven’t they hit our schools? I guess for the same reasons they haven’t hit our shopping malls, train stations, sporting events, churches, or a thousand other soft targets. Is it because they are busy in Iraq and Afghanistan? Is it because the response to 9/11 knocked them on their heels and they’re scared? Is it our Intel/LEO organizations are that good? I don’t know why they haven’t, I just know it’s not because they don’t want to shoot children, or our schools are well defended.
My nightmare is what happens if what’s currently stopping them stops working…
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