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by Jim Beaux
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:34 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises
Replies: 496
Views: 75368

Re: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises

AlphaWhiskey wrote: I have been involved in a deadly force encounter. I acted pretty much as I thought I would have. I have been on the X personally, and the only thing I know for sure is that the only way to know what I will do next time is to find myself there again. I hope and pray that day never comes, for me and for all of you, but I do not fear it. Just a little perspective on the "what if".
So right you are. When I was younger I worked 10 years for a refinery in the 70's. During this time we didnt have the safety protocols and often we had to contend with disasters that killed many. Some may remember the tragedies at Texaco Refinery in Port Arthur & the ones at Mobil Oil in Beaumont; but what you probably dont know is the potential disasters that we were able to head off.

I worked at one the above refineries and was on the X more than once; I also witnessed how my co-workers responded during their time on the X. We reacted respectfully a few times, and sometimes we didnt....and guys, I still cant tell you how I will react the next time if I am on the X, nor can I depend on how my then co-workers will.

There was extensive news coverage and communication black outs when I was involved in one of the explosions and fire. There was vague reports on the number of injuries and deaths. I didnt get home for a long time and when I did, I saw just how terribly my wife suffered just at the thought of me not ever coming home. I realized then that I have a responsibility to her; my risks where her risks. I doubt if either one of us could survive for long without the other.

With this in mind I have questions: My first and foremost priority is my wife's safety. If she and I were down and behind a row of seats & presumably away from the action, could I leave her unprotected to advance on the shooter? What about the danger of drawing the shooters attention to the location where my wife is that I leave to advance?

A few random observations on this shooting. Most of the people's movements were severely restricted as they couldnt move but in two directions, X or Y...few could move diagonally or had an opportunity to advance directly to the shooter because of the seats & the panicked people. Im sure I couldnt get my big carcass over the first row of seats without drawing attention & I would probably look like one of the ducks at a carnival shooting gallery if I tried walking between the row of seats, stumbling and slipping on bodies and blood.

I can only conclude that only a select few could be in a position to effectively and responsibly engage this guy; anything else could be drawing attention to some who may have been safe; and that's gambling.
by Jim Beaux
Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:21 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises
Replies: 496
Views: 75368

Re: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises

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DENVER, July 24 (UPI) -- The Colorado Bureau of Investigation said the number of people looking to purchase firearms has increased by 43 percent during the weekend.--http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/07/ ... t=hs&or=tn
by Jim Beaux
Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:55 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises
Replies: 496
Views: 75368

Re: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises

JALLEN wrote:Let's not misunderestimate this.

One factor is that for all anyone knew, this was part of the show, given the violence and action of modern movies. Wouldn't you like to empty your pistol into this "perp" only to find out this was all phony, Screen Actors Guild stuff, part of the premier?

Ever been to a Wild West Shoot out, where you knew it was part of the show? It would take awhile to figure out that this was not.

So right you are. There are geniuses running all over the place. Check out these two birds.

WARNING BAD LANGUAGE : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydz8iHB2RbM
by Jim Beaux
Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:08 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises
Replies: 496
Views: 75368

Re: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises

snatchel wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:Ive been patiently waiting and yet no one has stated the obvious; this slaughter is not about access to guns, it's about the influence of violent video games and movies on easily influenced young kids. Due to the media bombardment, our society has become indifferent to commitment to marriage, illegitimate children, same sex pairings, character, drugs, and work ethics.

Have any of you seen some of the trash being distributed? Life has no sanctity. Ive read that this particular movie involves a lot of extraordinary sadistic and violent acts. I understand this movie has a scene in which a victim has a bomb sewn inside him & I also understand that one of the latest James Bond movies shows the hero stuffing a bomb in the villain's rear end before setting it off.

The gun is only the tool, the "can opener" if you will. The honest questions are, just what motivates this sort of violence and just what reduces the regard for humanity & life?

Eating with a Spoon makes me Fat.
Buying Firearms makes me dangerous.
Being ex-Military, and SPEC-0 at that, makes me incredibly dangrous.
Buying high-cap "clips" means I want to kill people.

You get where I am going with this? Batman, or any other movie didnt make this guy do anything. All violent movies/etc. did, if anything at all, was give a theme to whatever motive he already had. This guy wanted to kill people and make a mess of things anyway, Batman just provided him a theme-the Joker.

I can say that ...... I want to drink beer. Coors Light commercials give me a theme to go by... and I choose Coors Light.

People are responsible for their own actions, buddy. The media, movies, artists, songs, parents, and teachers are not responsible for other people's evil actions.

I suggest you re-read my post using both eyes, friend.

I stated:
The gun is only the tool, the "can opener" if you will. The honest questions are, just what motivates this sort of violence and just what reduces the regard for humanity & life?
by Jim Beaux
Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:43 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises
Replies: 496
Views: 75368

Re: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises

Of course I accept that not all who are exposed to violent games & movies will become mass murderers, & I also agree that evil has existed since the first man walked this land, but, there is a correlation that exposure to violent media desensitizes. Certain music soothes while some increases agitation. Music was used at Guantanamo to "loosen up" some of the guests. :lol: (still to this day if I hear Debbie Boone singing "You Light Up My Life" I wanna kill) So I can accept being exposed to certain other forms of media stimulation can nurture violent behavior.

Check this google link for some articles on the subject.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&s ... 41&bih=515
by Jim Beaux
Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:50 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises
Replies: 496
Views: 75368

Re: Gunfire during Dark Night Rises

Ive been patiently waiting and yet no one has stated the obvious; this slaughter is not about access to guns, it's about the influence of violent video games and movies on easily influenced young kids. Due to the media bombardment, our society has become indifferent to commitment to marriage, illegitimate children, same sex pairings, character, drugs, and work ethics.

Have any of you seen some of the trash being distributed? Life has no sanctity. Ive read that this particular movie involves a lot of extraordinary sadistic and violent acts. I understand this movie has a scene in which a victim has a bomb sewn inside him & I also understand that one of the latest James Bond movies shows the hero stuffing a bomb in the villain's rear end before setting it off.

The gun is only the tool, the "can opener" if you will. The honest questions are, just what motivates this sort of violence and just what reduces the regard for humanity & life?

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