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ELB wrote:I didn't realize the 2/3 Regent vote was needed to override, I thought it was required for approval. This bill is even weaker tea than I thought.

Universities are overloaded with administrators, they will just appoint some guy to design a patchwork of no carry zones that effectively makes it impossible to legally carry concealed. There's no teeth in the bill to prevent that despite what it says.

I expect Straus will make sure this passes because he can have his cake and eat it too. He can claim he passed campus carry while his UT buddies hamstring it with off-limits zones. If he lets it blowup at the last minute, then he risks getting enough flak to enable a better bill next time, or a threat to his being speaker next time.

The only real significance of this bill is if it turns out to be a dam-buster .

txyaloo wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

jeffrw wrote:I'm glad to see this pass the Senate, but I'm a little confused by the provision that institutions may declare "certain areas" off-limits as long as they don't totally ban carry. Couldn't university officials simply define "certain areas" to include classrooms, offices, and the library, so that almost everyone going to campus would effectively be banned anyway? And since there are no specific guidelines on what "justification" is sufficient, couldn't they pretty much just use a general statement that they believe guns in those locations would not be conducive to a learning environment?

The board of regents has to approve it by a 2/3 vote and then report it to the legislature 100 days before the start of each session. The legislature can address overreach legislatively during the subsequent session. it will take a while for the dust to settle on this, but it's a large step forward.

They spent a lot of time talking about "legislative intent" today.... very worthwhile discussion and part of it (at least) was captured in the written record by an official motion.

I came away with a different impression based on Sen. Birdwell's comments. The Regents don't have to approve things with a 2/3 vote. The 2/3 vote is required if they wish to disapprove or make things less restrictive. If the Regents agree with the President/CEO's list of off limits places, no action is required. I may need to go listen again once the archived video is posted.

Not later than the 90th day after the date that the rules, regulations, or other provisions are established as described by Subsection (d-1), the board of regents or other governing board of the institution of higher education shall review the provisions. The board of regents or other governing board may, by a vote of not less than two-thirds of the board, amend wholly or partly the provisions established under Subsection (d-1). If amended under this subsection, the provisions are considered to be those of the institution as established under Section (d-1).

NotRPB wrote:thought I just heard pers priv resolution on Senate Bill 11 motion along with many others ? about talking oob ?

recessing house until tomorrow 2 pm adjourned, no recessed

NotRPB wrote:chub sandwich and fries

chubbing; stalling for time

anygunanywhere wrote:I just clicked on the link 5 minutes ago.

You guys watched this stuff the whole time HB910 bidness was going on? (realizing this thread is about campus carry. No thread drift intended.)

mgood wrote:Where are you watching this?
So I don't have to dig through 14 pages of posts to find a link or a channel