They use a "Beretta M9".Ericstac wrote:What 9mm are they carrying now? I wonder where they will be sold at and for how much
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- Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:27 am
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Re: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
- Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:10 am
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Re: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
I wonder if A Glock would be selected considering no safety. When Gaston designed the Glock he looked at the data that stated that in crisis usage, people mess up the safety - prohibiting firing of the weapon. I.e. they panic. Here is a quote from the article that is interesting - and may give a Glock a chance...
"While the Army will likely require an external safety on its primary sidearm, the M9’s safety is a classic shortcoming for troops trying to reload quickly, especially when wearing gloves. The safety selector is located at the rear end of the slide among grooves meant to improve grip when cocking the pistol. Troops have a tendency to accidentally activate the safety while cocking or reloading the weapon, a definite drawback in close-quarters combat. Well yea that would be bad.
But thats probably not the army way of doing things. But for close combat (of which most times is real bad) Glock would be best choice.
"While the Army will likely require an external safety on its primary sidearm, the M9’s safety is a classic shortcoming for troops trying to reload quickly, especially when wearing gloves. The safety selector is located at the rear end of the slide among grooves meant to improve grip when cocking the pistol. Troops have a tendency to accidentally activate the safety while cocking or reloading the weapon, a definite drawback in close-quarters combat. Well yea that would be bad.
But thats probably not the army way of doing things. But for close combat (of which most times is real bad) Glock would be best choice.
- Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:14 am
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- Topic: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
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Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
Read this article from National Defense Magazine:
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/ ... rades.aspx
Seems the 9mm may be replaced ending the argument which caliber is superior?
Clips from Article:
"..After the M4’s shortcomings, troops complain the most about their aging and "underpowered 9mm" M9 pistols, Coburn added".
"..The requirement document does not specify what caliber the new handgun should be, leaving an opening for the old-school .45 caliber or the in-between .40 caliber that has become popular with law enforcement agencies. A change in caliber seems more likely in light of complaints about the lethality of the 9mm round. Pavlick said the lack of punch the smaller round delivers has been a constant concern in after-action reports."
"The Army currently has 238,000 M9 pistols. It plans to buy 265,000 replacements"
Of Course Glock will be in the hunt to be the next Army Pistol - if the Glock "safety" can be successfully argued in proposal. Fascinating Article.
Is the 9mm going to be dumped? Looks like it will. What do you guys/gals think?
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/ ... rades.aspx
Seems the 9mm may be replaced ending the argument which caliber is superior?
Clips from Article:
"..After the M4’s shortcomings, troops complain the most about their aging and "underpowered 9mm" M9 pistols, Coburn added".
"..The requirement document does not specify what caliber the new handgun should be, leaving an opening for the old-school .45 caliber or the in-between .40 caliber that has become popular with law enforcement agencies. A change in caliber seems more likely in light of complaints about the lethality of the 9mm round. Pavlick said the lack of punch the smaller round delivers has been a constant concern in after-action reports."
"The Army currently has 238,000 M9 pistols. It plans to buy 265,000 replacements"
Of Course Glock will be in the hunt to be the next Army Pistol - if the Glock "safety" can be successfully argued in proposal. Fascinating Article.
Is the 9mm going to be dumped? Looks like it will. What do you guys/gals think?