As much as I'd love to dog on Mr. Baldwin, there may be some extenuating circumstances.
I belong to another gun forum that has people "in the industry." My understanding is that because a revolver was being pointed toward the camera, it was loaded with dummy rounds. That is so the camera can see the end of the slug in the cylinder. There are supposed to be markers that identify them as dummy rounds rather than live rounds. But I don't believe there is an industry standard for dummy rounds. Some places use marks on the brass. Another was to put BBs in the cartridge so that you could rattle it to confirm is was a dummy.
The point I'm getting at is that if the gun was supposed to have dummy rounds, it would look visually the same as live rounds.
I'd be more inclined to hold him him responsible as the producer. It was his job to be sure he had qualified safety people, that protocols were established and followed. From everything I've heard it sounds as though he was cutting corners on the whole production, including safety.
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Re: NM: Hand gun with trigger pulled by Alec Baldwin in rehearsal kills one injures one
I belong to “The Pistol Forum.” Great national resource with a LOT of LEO and professional members. (MDs, EMT, PHDs, Authors, and gun folks who work in Hollywood.) Here is my understanding of where this is.
Alex Baldwin the actor is in pretty good shape. Actors aren’t gun people, they don’t know the 4 rules. They follow direction of the director (point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger) That is why they are supposed to have experts (Armorers) on set to make sure everything is safe. A head on shot using a revolver needs “Dummy” rounds. Looks just like a usable cartridge. Just no propellent or primer. Not something your typical Hollywood pretty face would know.
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Alex the producer is in more jeopardy. He is the person ultimately responsible for safety on the set. He is responsible for hiring qualified safety personnel, including an experienced armorer.
It seems as though the young woman he hired wasn’t up to professional standards. I’ve read several articles where there were previous negligent discharges on this set. Somebody brought live ammo on set for some “target shooting”. The producer should have taken action. He obviously didn’t. There were numerous complaints by employees about safety standards on this set before the tragic death of a filmmaker. He was cutting expense to the detriment of safety. It seems to me as though that will be easy to prove and his self is negligent.
My personal feeling is that his arrogance allowed him to think the rules that applied to the rest of us didn’t apply to him. That resulted in a death.
Alex Baldwin the actor is in pretty good shape. Actors aren’t gun people, they don’t know the 4 rules. They follow direction of the director (point the gun at the camera and pull the trigger) That is why they are supposed to have experts (Armorers) on set to make sure everything is safe. A head on shot using a revolver needs “Dummy” rounds. Looks just like a usable cartridge. Just no propellent or primer. Not something your typical Hollywood pretty face would know.
NOW!
Alex the producer is in more jeopardy. He is the person ultimately responsible for safety on the set. He is responsible for hiring qualified safety personnel, including an experienced armorer.
It seems as though the young woman he hired wasn’t up to professional standards. I’ve read several articles where there were previous negligent discharges on this set. Somebody brought live ammo on set for some “target shooting”. The producer should have taken action. He obviously didn’t. There were numerous complaints by employees about safety standards on this set before the tragic death of a filmmaker. He was cutting expense to the detriment of safety. It seems to me as though that will be easy to prove and his self is negligent.
My personal feeling is that his arrogance allowed him to think the rules that applied to the rest of us didn’t apply to him. That resulted in a death.