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kauboy wrote:My credible and substantial argument is the law itself. It is very clear. I will not take one anonymous Wiki poseter's interpretation of "block letters" as my basis for understanding a law that has serious ramifications. If that is where you wish to put your trust, then so be it.

As I posted before, the DPS has an example of a 30.06 sign here. The only problem is that when viewed with different screen resolutions, it can't be promised that you will see it as inch high letters.

The sign is supposed to be prominently place so that no matter who you are or whether or not you are carrying a gun, you WILL see it. It supposed to be ugly and obtrusive to draw attention. Any attempt to "pretty" it up by changing the specs or to move it out of the clear view of the public renders it unenforcable.

kauboy wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:From Wikipedia;

Block letters may mean any of the following :

In America, they are simple letters that children are taught to write in first grade. They have no serifs and are upright. The name presumably comes from their appearance on wooden blocks that children play with, although these often use conventional Roman typeforms. Deriving from this usage, “block letters� any crude serif or sans-serif font that is formed by cutting a material such as wood or metal without the finer-artistry sophistication usually associated with professional type design in typography.
On official forms, when one is asked to write one's name, the request is usually made to write entirely in capital letters (block letters). This is because cursive handwriting, and especially signatures, can be hard to read. It is often misconstrued that one must write in capital letters when writing in block letters. Contrary to popular belief, and requests from Treasury, block letters can be written in both upper and lower case, at the writer's discretion. Cases such as Fossil Inc v The Fossil Group involving patents, trademarks and registration of designs clearly indicate that block letters may comprise of either lower or upper case.

Oh good, we turn to Wikipedia for answers to a legal question. Hey Charles, do you rely on Wiki when you're researching a case? Obviously its "the" place to get truthful information.

dihappy wrote:The law was written and 1 inch was given as the minimum.

It would really suck for a judge to say something like "well they tried to meet the law, so i side with them".

But i guess it happens all the time.

kauboy wrote:Negative!
Penal code states:
a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by
Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with
block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner
clearly visible to the public.

Letter (ii) says they must be block letters and they ALL must be 1" in height. Regardless of whether you think it's contrasting, it still doesn't meet this req.
Also, letter (iii) says that it must be displayed in a "conspicuous manner". That means that it muse "attract special attention, as by outstanding qualities or eccentricities" to comply. Does this sign? No.

My opinion: Not legal.

kauboy wrote:

casselthief wrote:I think you're trying to get a little technical on the validity of the sign it's self. I think white on a dark background is contrasting.
good luck on winning that fight.

Contrasting nothing!!! I'm pretty sure clear glass is not a contrasting color.
Anyways, were the other entrances posted? Well, first I should ask if there are other entrances.

casselthief wrote:more importantly, what're you doing wearing shorts and sandals in this weather?!?!?!?!!

I think you're trying to get a little technical on the validity of the sign it's self. I think white on a dark background is contrasting.
good luck on winning that fight.

nitrogen wrote:I don' t think it's a legal sign. it's not contrasting, and I don't believe the letters are large enough. (I can't tell from the photo)

When was this taken? I didn't see this when I went.