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by OnceFired
Mon May 13, 2013 9:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Delivery drivers
Replies: 21
Views: 3936

Re: Delivery drivers

It's a risk I would take. I'd rather be hedging my bets against being robbed, mugged, etc than hedge my bets on employment.

ZA
by OnceFired
Thu May 09, 2013 12:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Delivery drivers
Replies: 21
Views: 3936

Re: Delivery drivers

Yeah, that is what I thought.

Law allows it, regardless of what the employment agreement requires. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

ZA
by OnceFired
Wed May 08, 2013 4:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Delivery drivers
Replies: 21
Views: 3936

Re: Delivery drivers

It seems to me that a driver does not give up any of his personal rights when driving his vehicle - whether he represents an employer, or not. He still has all his rights at all times. The employer has no license on or standing toward the vehicle at any time UNLESS the driver (and vehicle by extension) is involved in illegal activity. Until then the company has no claim because they have no legal standing.

I could certainly see physically carrying a pistol on one's person being a very big problem for the driver. However, once the driver is no longer in his own personal domain, and is now very specifically fulfilling his employed duty, we have a much different situation.

But inside the car is a far more grey area.

ZA
by OnceFired
Wed May 08, 2013 3:29 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Delivery drivers
Replies: 21
Views: 3936

Delivery drivers

Hi all

My understanding of TX law is that a CHL permits the owner to bring the weapon into the car (loaded or not) into a concealed location. This can be anywhere, as long as it is not immediately visible. Further to my understanding, this is an improvement of the castle doctrine as it applies to vehicles as an extension of the home.

Now let's cross reference that with being an employee of any delivery company. Let's further get specific by eliminating any company-owned vehicles - we're dealing purely with employee-owned transportation.

It is my understanding that said employee can carry a firearm in the car regardless of what the employer wishes. Now, physically carrying the firearm beyond the vehicle enters the realm of employee handbook violations.

The company I am basing this question off of has a policy of "employees must not carry weapons"

My question would be this - is "carrying" the act of possessing the weapon on your person, or is the "concealed possession in the vehicle" enough to meet the legal definition of "carry weapons"?

ZA

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