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Lucky45 wrote:

stevie_d_64 wrote: I believe it is another illustration of how horrible things have become in society where someone believe its ok to mess around with obviously young girls at his age, and not see there is something wrong with the whole situation...

Great post overall Stevie.
One thing that really makes he go hmmm...is the fact that people think that this is a new phenonmenon. Of course it is appalling to think that others don't have the morals that you do. But don't act like you didn't know it happens. When people make fun about what goes on near the border of Mexico, it is not appalling? When alot of their budding in the corporate circle travel to Southeast Asia where this kind of thing is rampant, it is not appalling? But as soon it hits near home, here comes the outcry. You can't be self righteous only when it hits home. You need to open your eyes to what is going on in the world everyday and speak up.

Back on topic...Sort of...

I have direct experience in seeing the effects of what happens overseas, and am not surprised that the culture has developed and thrived in the United States...It was bound to happen...

Seeing most of the guys I served with who couldn't wait to hit those ports of call...

I am not surprised to see the same mentality apparent here in this incident...

If it were up to me I can't see me faulting the father for what he did, but he did it wrong...Thats why I believe he'll walk...

But putting myself in his position, I just can't imagine it getting that bad if it were me in the first place...

So when, and if, we get information that clarifies this a little more, I am not sure there is much more that can be said than has been already...

Just another little tidbit...

http://www.click2houston.com/news/11231839/detail.html

Looks like Mom stayed in the front, Dad went around to the back to flush them out...

Mr. Dove made the mistake of making threatening gestures to the Mom, and bingo...End of story...

The only damnable mistake the Dad made outright was fleeing the scene...That could certainly complicate things...But its no excuse...

Overall I do believe there are some lessons to be learned here...

Whew boy did this ever blow up or what...

I applaud the penal code paste'rs and the folks commenting on the whole who's at fault here gang...I believe it is all good to get this out...There is absolutely no one wrong in conveying their opinion on this incident...

I only counted one or two possibly who commented about how we will probably not hear the whole story on this, and that in and of itself is not totally unexpected...Or reason to not speculate on our part...

We all know what we would do if you interjected yourself into this situation...If you want to play the part of the father, the 13 year old daughter, the mother...And possibly the idiot who was shot and killed...

All I can say is that when this goes to trial, I bet you a dollar to a donut hole that this father walks...

There were serious lapses in judgement for all who were involved...No one had any clear handle on their emotions or their actions...And the result is still the same someone was killed over that "combined" lapse of judgement...

Sure, one was responsible for initiating the encounter, nothing was stated in any report I have seen so far about any sexual impropriety (I stand to be corrected if there was), it took two to choose to complete that aspect of the incident...

And it took one to pull the trigger...

I'm not making any excuses for either party...But I still say the father is going to either plea down any offence, or walk outright per a jury of his peers...

But I bet we'll here a lot more about "Mr. I-have-nothing-but-honorable-intentions-with-your-13-year-old-daughter-Man"...

I believe it is another illustration of how horrible things have become in society where someone believe its ok to mess around with obviously young girls at his age, and not see there is something wrong with the whole situation...But I'll bet he didn't even care...He won't need to anymore, thats for sure...

I just keep one thing in mind...News is news...Not evidence...