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Charles L. Cotton wrote:

stevie_d_64 wrote:Is there anything "reasonable" about "fear"???

Thats why I'm getting myself weened off the terminology altogether...

"Reasonable" being a logical term...

And "fear" being an emotional term...

I would think it best to not even mix the terms in anything I say about the use (justified or not) of Deadly Force...

That's exactly why you don't see the word "fear" in TPC §§9.31 or 9.31 and why it's not a justification for the use of deadly force. In those statutes, the adjective "reasonably" modifies "believes" and fear is never mentioned. What scares people varies widely, so there would be no realistic way to establish a standard for what constitutes a "reasonable" fear.

Chas.

Mucho Gracias!

This is one of those "gem" discussions that keep me jazzed about this place...

One thing...And it may sound funny, but it leans towards what I am trying to imply...

Is there anything "reasonable" about "fear"???

Thats why I'm getting myself weened off the terminology altogether...

"Reasonable" being a logical term...

And "fear" being an emotional term...

I would think it best to not even mix the terms in anything I say about the use (justified or not) of Deadly Force...

Its one of those Steve's concepts that obviously I do not fear bantering around here for others to throw rocks at if they dissagree...No one will hurt my feelings at all if they dissagree with anything I say...Well, mostly...

seamusTX wrote:Fear is an emotion. It is not necessarily based on reason or facts.

BINGO!!!

But when you say something like:

"I reasonably determined that the deceased presented a threat that had previously not been subdued by my verbal requests to "stop" what they were doing, I reasoned that the use of deadly force was needed to "stop" the threat from continuing...As awful as the result was, I determined that this was the only option left to "stop" that threat, from harming myself and others around me."

No where in there will I imply that I was in fear for my life...I would certainly be concerned, but no one will coerce me into admitting that I was in an emotional state in the determination that deadly force was necessary to "stop" a threat...

It sounds cold, it sounds callous, but I am of the opinion that if my counsel determines that I need to make a statement, this would be a good thing to let them know where my mind was at the time...And if it needs a little tweeking...Sure, I can wrap around that idea...