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by srothstein
Wed May 06, 2009 10:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Helotes Cornyval
Replies: 22
Views: 3730

Re: Helotes Cornyval

Furyataurus wrote:How would I go about seeing if the Cornyval DID derive 51% from alcohol sales????
I am not sure if you can. Many charities will make their books open, or at least an audit of the results. You might just ask to see their last audit.

I think your best bet would be to get the newspapers interested. I am not sure they would care about our side (though some reporters might), but you could use it as an example to argue a different one should be posted 51% and is not. Of course, you would have to find one that is not posted first.

You might raise the point with a legislator after the session is over. I am sure some of the real pro-2A politicians would be interested.

You could file a complaint at TABC, but I am not sure if it would do any good. I think they would say it is now moot since the license is expired. I don't know enough about how they handle the temporary permits like that to say what would really happen. They may be interested if you showed it as a pattern over a couple years, but if you only complained about the one, they might say it was just an honest mistake and sales were only estimated after all.
by srothstein
Tue May 05, 2009 11:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Helotes Cornyval
Replies: 22
Views: 3730

Re: Helotes Cornyval

Keith,

The answer to both questions is yes. If they tell us the money will be mostly alcohol sales, the permit is written as 51%. And it would take a thorough investigation to prove that they did not get 51% and overturn the permit decision. To make a difference in a court case for unlawfully carrying, it would take even more to prove that they deliberately lied on the application. If they submitted what they truly anticipated sales to be and the decision were made on that basis, the law would apply since it specifically says it is the TABC decision that counts.
by srothstein
Sun May 03, 2009 11:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Helotes Cornyval
Replies: 22
Views: 3730

Re: Helotes Cornyval

The problem is that the Cornyval, along with many other events, will never show up in the TABC database that you can search. This is because they only get a temporary permit that is just good for the three days of the event. Temporary permits will also not have the "sign" line on them since they are handwritten out forms.

I honestly do not know who has a way to check the signs for 51 or not being correct. The licensing department might be able to, and the local compliance people might be able to get through to them, but I am not sure of the procedures for it. The problem becomes moot since it goes away before it can be investigated, even if we believe it will recur again next year. Each temporary is treated as a separate event.

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