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by srothstein
Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 51% Sign Picture?
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Re: 51% Sign Picture?

Joe817,

Well, I am glad someone found a copy of the actual sign. I was really surprised that none of the mandated signs are available for download on the TABC web site. Since they give the signs away for free, I cannot understand why they ar enot posted.

But here is the weird part of Texas laws. it is not just the Alcoholic Beverage Code that is confusing. It is all of our laws. The requirement for the 51% sign is NOT in the Alcoholic Beverage Code. Since the 51% sign only applies to CHL holders and was passed as part of the CHL law, the requirement for it is in the Government Code, section 411.204. The Alcoholic Beverage Code was amended to only require the non-licensed possession sign if they were not required to post the 51% sign.

So, a bar has to post one of two signs, either the 51% sign (sign=red on the license, from the red 51) or the non-licensed possession sign (sign=blue on the license). The license part is just a note telling us which sign is required. The bar may, of course, post a 30.06 sign if it wanted to but that is the owner's choice as 30.06 always is.

And, just as an example of how confusing the laws really are, the Government Code REQUIRES hospitals to post a sign saying it is illegal to carry there (worded just like the 51% sign but without the 51) even though this is no longer true. You can walk past the handguns are banned sign at a hospital unless it is posted with a 30.06 sign. And city owned hospitals are one of the very rare exceptions to 30.06 signs being valid on government property (you get charged with violating PC 46.035 instead of 30.06 though).

Now, who said the law has to make sense to someone?

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