Sorry, I had not even read everything they listed there since I knew of the better definition. That is interesting, the way they define it though. I knew that you needed a dealer's license for the RV trailers, but I had never paid enough attention to the way the Law defined it. Apparently, you are correct that you woul dnot need the license to sell the V-8 powered unicycle.chabouk wrote:I was referring to the section that RPB posted, where the definition of "motor vehicle" says it has two or more wheels, and (D) lists a "towable recreational vehicle".srothstein wrote:Sure it is. A vehicle is anything designed to carry people on a street. A motor vehicle is any vehicle that is self-propelled.chabouk wrote:So a V8-powered unicycle isn't a motor vehicle? Cool!
I did not see that in there. A vehicle is towed or self-propelled, a motor vehicle is self-propelled.It's strange that they define a towed recreational vehicle (i.e., a travel trailer), which has no motor, as a "motor vehicle".
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- Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:14 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:49 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: State Park carry?
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Sure it is. A vehicle is anything designed to carry people on a street. A motor vehicle is any vehicle that is self-propelled.chabouk wrote:So a V8-powered unicycle isn't a motor vehicle? Cool!
I did not see that in there. A vehicle is towed or self-propelled, a motor vehicle is self-propelled.It's strange that they define a towed recreational vehicle (i.e., a travel trailer), which has no motor, as a "motor vehicle".
This I have to give you, but if one law can define a semi-automatic weapon as an assault rifle, another law can define a vehicle with an engine as a motor vehicle.I guess I could break out my pedant hat and point out that electric cars are the only vehicles that move by the power of a motor. Those that run on gasoline or diesel use engines, not motors.
- Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: State Park carry?
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Umm,
There is a better definition in Transportation Code section 502.001. You do need to combine a few sections though. Here are all the parts of the definitions that make up vehicles and motor vehicles. Some of the things people don't normally think about include trailers being vehicles and some of the not as common motor vehicles (golf carts and such).
As an aside, there is no more Motor Vehicle Board in Texas. As of last Sep. 1, the Board got taken away from DOT and made into its own department, the Department of Motor Vehicles (or DMV as some will recognize).
(1) "All-terrain vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is:
(A) equipped with a saddle for the use of:
(i) the rider; and
(ii) a passenger, if the motor vehicle is designed by the manufacturer to transport a passenger;
(B) designed to propel itself with three or more tires in contact with the ground;
(C) designed by the manufacturer for off-highway use; and
(D) not designed by the manufacturer primarily for farming or lawn care.
(2) "Commercial motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, designed or used primarily to transport property. The term includes a passenger car reconstructed and used primarily for delivery purposes. The term does not include a passenger car used to deliver the United States mail.
(4) "Farm semitrailer" means a semitrailer designed and used primarily as a farm vehicle.
(5) "Farm tractor" means a motor vehicle designed and used primarily as a farm implement for drawing other implements of husbandry.
(6) "Farm trailer" means a trailer designed and used primarily as a farm vehicle.
(7) "Golf cart" means a motor vehicle designed by the manufacturer primarily for transporting persons on a golf course.
(9) "Light truck" means a commercial motor vehicle that has a manufacturer's rated carrying capacity of one ton or less.
(11) "Motor bus" includes every vehicle used to transport persons on the public highways for compensation, other than:
(A) a vehicle operated by muscular power; or
(B) a municipal bus.
(12) "Motorcycle" means a motor vehicle designed to propel itself with not more than three wheels in contact with the ground. The term does not include a tractor.
(13) "Motor vehicle" means a vehicle that is self-propelled.
(17) "Passenger car" means a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, golf cart, light truck, or bus, designed or used primarily for the transportation of persons.
(19-a) "Recreational off-highway vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is:
(A) equipped with a non-straddle seat for the use of:
(i) the rider; and
(ii) a passenger, if the vehicle is designed by the manufacturer to transport a passenger;
(B) designed to propel itself with four or more tires in contact with the ground;
(C) designed by the manufacturer for off-highway use by the operator only; and
(D) not designed by the manufacturer primarily for farming or lawn care.
(20) "Road tractor" means a vehicle designed for the purpose of mowing the right-of-way of a public highway or a motor vehicle designed or used for drawing another vehicle or a load and not constructed to carry:
(A) an independent load; or
(B) a part of the weight of the vehicle and load to be drawn.
(21) "Semitrailer" means a vehicle designed or used with a motor vehicle so that part of the weight of the vehicle and its load rests on or is carried by another vehicle.
(22) "Trailer" means a vehicle that:
(A) is designed or used to carry a load wholly on its own structure; and
(B) is drawn or designed to be drawn by a motor vehicle.
(23) "Truck-tractor" means a motor vehicle:
(A) designed and used primarily for drawing another vehicle; and
(B) not constructed to carry a load other than a part of the weight of the vehicle and load to be drawn.
(24) "Vehicle" means a device in or by which a person or property is or may be transported or drawn on a public highway, other than a device used exclusively on stationary rails or tracks.
There is a better definition in Transportation Code section 502.001. You do need to combine a few sections though. Here are all the parts of the definitions that make up vehicles and motor vehicles. Some of the things people don't normally think about include trailers being vehicles and some of the not as common motor vehicles (golf carts and such).
As an aside, there is no more Motor Vehicle Board in Texas. As of last Sep. 1, the Board got taken away from DOT and made into its own department, the Department of Motor Vehicles (or DMV as some will recognize).
(1) "All-terrain vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is:
(A) equipped with a saddle for the use of:
(i) the rider; and
(ii) a passenger, if the motor vehicle is designed by the manufacturer to transport a passenger;
(B) designed to propel itself with three or more tires in contact with the ground;
(C) designed by the manufacturer for off-highway use; and
(D) not designed by the manufacturer primarily for farming or lawn care.
(2) "Commercial motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, designed or used primarily to transport property. The term includes a passenger car reconstructed and used primarily for delivery purposes. The term does not include a passenger car used to deliver the United States mail.
(4) "Farm semitrailer" means a semitrailer designed and used primarily as a farm vehicle.
(5) "Farm tractor" means a motor vehicle designed and used primarily as a farm implement for drawing other implements of husbandry.
(6) "Farm trailer" means a trailer designed and used primarily as a farm vehicle.
(7) "Golf cart" means a motor vehicle designed by the manufacturer primarily for transporting persons on a golf course.
(9) "Light truck" means a commercial motor vehicle that has a manufacturer's rated carrying capacity of one ton or less.
(11) "Motor bus" includes every vehicle used to transport persons on the public highways for compensation, other than:
(A) a vehicle operated by muscular power; or
(B) a municipal bus.
(12) "Motorcycle" means a motor vehicle designed to propel itself with not more than three wheels in contact with the ground. The term does not include a tractor.
(13) "Motor vehicle" means a vehicle that is self-propelled.
(17) "Passenger car" means a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, golf cart, light truck, or bus, designed or used primarily for the transportation of persons.
(19-a) "Recreational off-highway vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is:
(A) equipped with a non-straddle seat for the use of:
(i) the rider; and
(ii) a passenger, if the vehicle is designed by the manufacturer to transport a passenger;
(B) designed to propel itself with four or more tires in contact with the ground;
(C) designed by the manufacturer for off-highway use by the operator only; and
(D) not designed by the manufacturer primarily for farming or lawn care.
(20) "Road tractor" means a vehicle designed for the purpose of mowing the right-of-way of a public highway or a motor vehicle designed or used for drawing another vehicle or a load and not constructed to carry:
(A) an independent load; or
(B) a part of the weight of the vehicle and load to be drawn.
(21) "Semitrailer" means a vehicle designed or used with a motor vehicle so that part of the weight of the vehicle and its load rests on or is carried by another vehicle.
(22) "Trailer" means a vehicle that:
(A) is designed or used to carry a load wholly on its own structure; and
(B) is drawn or designed to be drawn by a motor vehicle.
(23) "Truck-tractor" means a motor vehicle:
(A) designed and used primarily for drawing another vehicle; and
(B) not constructed to carry a load other than a part of the weight of the vehicle and load to be drawn.
(24) "Vehicle" means a device in or by which a person or property is or may be transported or drawn on a public highway, other than a device used exclusively on stationary rails or tracks.