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Our church has an annual "Great Event" where we go into the community and do various service projects to help families or organizations with general chores or projects they've not been able to do themselves because of life events etc. Anyway, yesterday I participated for the first time since getting my CHL and was assigned to a couple who needed general home upkeep since the wife was debilitated with a recent illness. As I was working in the yard, I was very diligent and more than a little paranoid about an accidental reveal of my SR9c. I kept thinking "what would I say to the guys on this forum if I got harrased or arrested for an accidental reveal after the stance I made here." All I could hear in my head was Anygun's voice (as I imagined it) saying "see, that's what you get!"

Made me triply diligent about being concealed.

Jaguar wrote:Let's suppose the repair guy has done work for you before. He fixed a leak under your bath tub, then a sewer line blockage, and this time he is laid out on the kitchen floor with his head under the sink and arms above his head when his shirt rides up and you see a pistol.

Both times before he was professional, courteous, and very fair with his prices. Are you going to make a big deal of it now?

If you ask about it - he always carries, even when he was at your house the last two times.

Just wondering if the "stranger" factor has worn off yet?

I believe the previous visits define an established relationship. That person is no longer a stranger. I have a trusted AC repairman who I know carries. He's always welcome. If CPS sends a repairman out that I've never seen and he reveals a firearm, we have a (potential) problem. If it remains concealed, no prob.

I think the "accidental reveal" is the key point. If you never saw the repair guys gun, there would never be a problem. Same as when we carry in public. If the g.p. don't see our CONCEALED gun, they don't panic and ask us to leave. We are not discussing open carry here. That is another matter all together. The original premise is, a repair guy, whom you don't know and is a stranger, has a gun in your home. I don't think Cowboyengineers response is a double standard at all. If someone spotted your CCW in walmart, most likely the cops would come and demand to see your CHL at best. At worst, you may be taking a ride downtown.

anygunanywhere wrote:

jayinsat wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

jayinsat wrote:I started a new thread so as not to hijack this one. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64639" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It seems to me that most of us assume everyone carrying a gun is a law abiding citizen legally able to carry. I assert that that CAN BE a dangerous assumption. It's one thing if it's some one you've have a long term relationship with but not everyone showing up to your home will be known to you. We can't control who the power company, cable company etc sends to us. Even trusted contractors can occasionally hire and send out improperly vetted workers. I welcome CHL'ees in my home but, I feel, as a contractor, you should be extra careful to make sure you never accidently reveal or be ready to answer a whole lotta questions.

Are youy a law abiding person legally able to carry?

Please take this in a non-offensive manner, but it is hard for me to tell just by your posts. You need to prove it to me before I will believe you.

Anygunanywhere

If I were in your home and accidently revealed, that would be a more-than reasonable demand to which I would immediately comply. That is truly my point Anygun. I accidently revealed a potentially lethal weapon in your presence. You should be concerned, in my view, since you don't know me. Now, if I didn't reveal, you'd have no reason to suspect and this question would never even come up. The key here is the repair person accidently revealed and you don't know them.

The key is that you should be wary of anyone and not necessarliy based on whether they are armed.

A handyman in your home can kill you with his phillips screwdriver or bludgeon you with his hammer.

The focus should not be on the firearm. Just because someone is armed does not mean that you are at a greater risk of them harming you.

Anygunanywhere

Point taken! Agreed.

anygunanywhere wrote:

jayinsat wrote:I started a new thread so as not to hijack this one. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64639" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It seems to me that most of us assume everyone carrying a gun is a law abiding citizen legally able to carry. I assert that that CAN BE a dangerous assumption. It's one thing if it's some one you've have a long term relationship with but not everyone showing up to your home will be known to you. We can't control who the power company, cable company etc sends to us. Even trusted contractors can occasionally hire and send out improperly vetted workers. I welcome CHL'ees in my home but, I feel, as a contractor, you should be extra careful to make sure you never accidently reveal or be ready to answer a whole lotta questions.

Are youy a law abiding person legally able to carry?

Please take this in a non-offensive manner, but it is hard for me to tell just by your posts. You need to prove it to me before I will believe you.

Anygunanywhere

If I were in your home and accidently revealed, that would be a more-than reasonable demand to which I would immediately comply. That is truly my point Anygun. I accidently revealed a potentially lethal weapon in your presence. You should be concerned, in my view, since you don't know me. Now, if I didn't reveal, you'd have no reason to suspect and this question would never even come up. The key here is the repair person accidently revealed and you don't know them.

I started a new thread so as not to hijack this one. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64639" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It seems to me that most of us assume everyone carrying a gun is a law abiding citizen legally able to carry. I assert that that CAN BE a dangerous assumption. It's one thing if it's some one you've have a long term relationship with but not everyone showing up to your home will be known to you. We can't control who the power company, cable company etc sends to us. Even trusted contractors can occasionally hire and send out improperly vetted workers. I welcome CHL'ees in my home but, I feel, as a contractor, you should be extra careful to make sure you never accidently reveal or be ready to answer a whole lotta questions.

Here in San Antonio, there was a case where a reputable A/C company failed to properly vet a contractor. He turned out to be a pedophile. My point is, you should do all you can to never reveal if you are entering a clients home. That's your responsibility. I trust but verify.

I can't see how this got turned into a "shooting the homeowner" thread.

I believe the OP asks what would we, the homeowners, do if we saw the repairpersons gun. Many initial responses seemed to presume the repairperson was a reputable, licensed individual. I don't presume that. If they accidentally reveal, I will want assurance or they will be asked to leave. Many home burglars use stolen utility vehicles.

How do you know the person coming to repair your broken whatever is not intent on harm? Just because they wear the uniform and have tools doesn't mean they are not a serial rapist/killer that has not been caught. I would be very careful pointing out anyones 2a exposure. In my own home, I would demand to see his license to conceal in order to continue to work and then apologize for putting him on the spot. I don't know if he has a license or just plan on killing me after i'm otherwise distracted. I wouldn't make a big deal cause i'm strapped 24/7 in my home.

Same thing in public. How do I know they are not there to rob? Don't assume they are a law abiding citizen.