Thank you.Silent Professional wrote:1. Extra ammo in a Sidesaddle, not on the sling. It won't work either as a spare ammo carrier or as a sling. (Imagine trying to pluck spare rounds out of a swinging sling in the dark.)jayinsat wrote:I have a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security with 18" barrel that i've owned for almost a year now. I've put over 100 rds of birdshot and 00 buck through it. I can tear it down and put it back in less than a minute. It's the only long gun I have ever owned and the only other experience was with a long gun was the M16 in basic training in the Army.
My question is this: I recently replaced the butt stock with a 6 position tactical stock, replaced the fore-end with one with rails and added the Blackhawk 2 point sling/shotshell holder. The sling attaches to the magazine tube cap and the butt stock near the recoil pad. How do I use the sling when slinging the shotgun over my body? I've slung it barrel down cross body and barrel up over one shoulder (like I used to do my M16). What is the proper tactical way to sling the shotgun on body. Neither way has been that comfortable, especially with the weight with all those shells. I haven't figured out rapid deployment yet either.
I do plan to take a home-defense shotgun course in the near future. Just looking for some tips for now.
Thanks.
2. If you're familiar with the Blue Force / Vickers Tactical type of quick adjust slings, they're about as good as you can get in a 2 point sling. I prefer a single point, so I put a GGG single point sling plate between the receiver and the replacement buttstock, and I'm set up the same way my rifle is.
3. While we're on the subject of butt stocks, I highly recommend that you ditch the adjustable stock and go with a fixed, shorty stock. I recently finished up teaching a shotgun instructor course to 30 instructors, all LE and military. One department had installed the useless Knoxx (now Blackhawk, I think) stock on their department's weapons. When I set up the short stoke / double feed stoppage clearance drill, the folks with the Knox pogo stick on the end of their 870's could not clear the double feed. Ditto with the adjustable stocks. If you need to hold down the action release and pull down hard on the fore end while slamming the butt stock as hard as you can on the deck, it's a no - go with the Knoxx stock and collapsible stocks.
3. Which brings me to the fore end. In my opinion, rails on a pump shotgun fore end are about as useful as a fly swatter in a house fire. Sooner or later, you'll have to manipulate that fore end like you mean it, if nothing else to clear out a user induced stoppage. At that point all those nice sharp edges will eat up your palm and now you have a pain stimulus and nice slippery blood to add to the perspiration as you're trying to get the weapon up and running again.
Everybody wants to turn the 12 gauge pump into a Colt M4. It was around long before the M4, and will be around long after the M4 goes away. Don't try to turn it into something it isn't, and you'll be O.K.
Just my $0.02.
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yeah. That thingy. I told you I'm inexperienced.Reserve161 wrote:Bandoleer!!
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Now you tell me!couzin wrote:Guns are prepositioned on three gun course except usually your sidearm. Don't really need slings there either, just gets hung on obstacles.
Well, it looks cool. Maybe I'll get one of those cross cross over the chest shot shell holders.
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I appreciate all the responses and advice. I agree, for home defense, the sling doesn't make much sense. I guess I got it for two reasons: 1) I wanted to have a good number of reloads available and the 15 shotshell sling was the perfect answer. 2) I thought it would help if I ever shoot 3 gun matches, which I really want to do once I get a carbine. I'll have more questions then.
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
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Stupid, Inexperienced Long-gun-Guy Question
I have a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security with 18" barrel that i've owned for almost a year now. I've put over 100 rds of birdshot and 00 buck through it. I can tear it down and put it back in less than a minute. It's the only long gun I have ever owned and the only other experience was with a long gun was the M16 in basic training in the Army.
My question is this: I recently replaced the butt stock with a 6 position tactical stock, replaced the fore-end with one with rails and added the Blackhawk 2 point sling/shotshell holder. The sling attaches to the magazine tube cap and the butt stock near the recoil pad. How do I use the sling when slinging the shotgun over my body? I've slung it barrel down cross body and barrel up over one shoulder (like I used to do my M16). What is the proper tactical way to sling the shotgun on body. Neither way has been that comfortable, especially with the weight with all those shells. I haven't figured out rapid deployment yet either.
I do plan to take a home-defense shotgun course in the near future. Just looking for some tips for now.
Thanks.
My question is this: I recently replaced the butt stock with a 6 position tactical stock, replaced the fore-end with one with rails and added the Blackhawk 2 point sling/shotshell holder. The sling attaches to the magazine tube cap and the butt stock near the recoil pad. How do I use the sling when slinging the shotgun over my body? I've slung it barrel down cross body and barrel up over one shoulder (like I used to do my M16). What is the proper tactical way to sling the shotgun on body. Neither way has been that comfortable, especially with the weight with all those shells. I haven't figured out rapid deployment yet either.
I do plan to take a home-defense shotgun course in the near future. Just looking for some tips for now.
Thanks.