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When you see the film of the very first stages from the shooting, it looks like the big bald biker on the steps of the entrance to Twin Peaks was shot straight through the head by a sniper firing from above...maybe from the Mexican restaurant roof next door? I am no forensics expert but it doesn't look like any MC club member fired first.

cb1000rider wrote:Wait.. it the tide turning here? What happened to mamma-said, the company you keep, and what you wear matters? OK, I made that last bit up about what you wear... But still, it amazes me that outspoken, law-abiding, conservative, constitution-believing people could ever support an such an obvious round up and throw-away the key... Even if it did net quite a few bad guys.

Makes me want to go live on an island. No, you don't need to second that motion..

I'm starting to rethink the way the way we look at the political strata in this society. In my view, the most important distinction now is not conservative vs. (liberal/progressive/whatever), but those who support freedom and the constitution and those who support authoritarianism. An example is the number of "conservatives" on my FB page who blindly support the authorities/public servants in all situations, and who's mantra seems to be "well if that unarmed guy hadn't been running, he'd be alive now, right? Nope, just answer my question, If that guy hadn't run he'd be alive, right?" Very disillusioning.

VMI77 wrote:

ELB wrote:The Breitbart article is basically some quotes from other newspapers. Not exactly news, I think. Especially when a substantial part of it is quoting an article that quotes a woman who wasn't there but is repeating "rumours swirling" around the biker community.

meh.

I'll wait a bit longer.

That's why my citation was of their skepticism, and the one clear injustice that isn't in doubt. IMO, the corrupt and incompetent BATF is behind it, in the shadows, and put Waco PD in a bind. Just smells that way to me.

What, with the ATF's stellar history in Waco?