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by Texas Sheepdog
Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Response From DPS Regarding Policies When Encountering CHLer
Replies: 171
Views: 29688

Re: Response From DPS Regarding Policies When Encountering C

57Coastie wrote:
mikedude wrote:My suggestion is don't carry a stolen gun :rolll

Other states have the specific gun/serial number on your CHL. That could alleviate the problem. Then you can only carry what is on the CHL, and the # is already there. I don't think anybody here wants that. In reality with that system it means the CHL holder qualified with that gun at least once every 5 years. With the TX system one qualifies once every 5 with one gun, then goes off and carries whatever they want w/o qualifying.
:iagree: :tiphat:
Don't carry a stolen gun. That's good advice. LOL
by Texas Sheepdog
Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:59 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Response From DPS Regarding Policies When Encountering CHLer
Replies: 171
Views: 29688

Re: Response From DPS Regarding Policies When Encountering C

anygunanywhere wrote:Disarming law abiding CHLers is nothing to get your yucks over.
I agree but most cops are too busy dealing with law breakers to randomly pull over the law abiding for yucks.
by Texas Sheepdog
Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Response From DPS Regarding Policies When Encountering CHLer
Replies: 171
Views: 29688

Re: Response From DPS Regarding Policies When Encountering C

mikedude wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:
mikedude wrote:I guess one can just flash their CHL badge and all is good "rlol"
Makes as much sense as LEO's treating a citizen as a thief, with no PC or RS that they have stolen anything. Or treating them like a violent criminal, when they have not committed a violent crime.

Im very ok with LEO having a legal right to disarm a CHL'er when needed.
Im not ok with them doing it, because it's thursday.. or because I had a tail light out... because I called 911 to report a crime.. or well because of anything other them presenting a articulable threat to the LEO's life. A THREAT,, an actual threat.. Not the possibility of a threat, but a tangible threat.

It's only a hard concept to grasp, for some of those on the other side of the blue line......The STATS show... CHL's are not a general threat to a LEO during a contact.... but, hey, lets not let tangible facts get in the way of paranoia. :smilelol5:
Gotta disagree to a point. IF I fear for my safety, and have a lawful detention I am taking the gun. This is not being scared, but something one that is not a LEO cannot understand. That is the nature of the work. I will not wait until there is an actual threat to my safety as that will be too late. You can be sure I will be able to articulate the facts and probably have video/audio of the contact as well. Downside is I will be second guessed on internet forums by people that were not there ;-). I get paid to do a job and go home to our families. I have been in a fatal shooting and let me tell you it goes from talking to shooting in the blink of an eye, heck faster sometimes. As a reminder I have NEVER taken a chl holders gun in TWO states that I have worked.

For the most part we are on the same page here. :txflag:
That's a good approach balancing officer safety with community concerns. Our policy says to disarm everyone. If the gun comes back clean and we can verify their credentials, they get the gun back unloaded, and they can reload after they leave the scene. If there's any questions, we can hold onto the gun until we sort things out. Sometimes we hold onto the suspect too, depending on the contact. LOL

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