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Sangiovese wrote:I know it will get sorted out at some point, but accepting money from new instructor applicants while at the same time not allowing them to move forward in the process (due to the non-availability of the application form) is pretty poor program administration. Seems like they would either (1) continue to use the old form until the new form is available or (2) if the form is so flawed that they cannot continue using it then stop accepting new applications until the new form is available.

I've filled in the customer service form as directed... but am still awaiting an actual response. (I did get one that said they appreciate my patience while they research my needs.) But I really don't see the point in doing it the way they are. If they are going to send me the old form or some new version of the form, why go through the hassle and delay of making me ask for it and then wait a week or two for them to send it, instead of just keeping it on the website? If they aren't going to send me a form, then why accept new applications at all, if there is no way to move forward?

I suppose the main thing is to be thankful we are in a shall-issue state and have a pretty good licensing program... but it sure does drive you bonkers when you're stuck in an administrative pothole in the process.

Keith B wrote:I have gotten word back from DPS, and they ARE requiring anyone who attends new instructor classes to already be certified as a handgun instructor and provide proof of such before attending. It has been required per the statutes all along, but was not being enforced previously. Here is a portion of an email that is being sent to new applicants:

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In order to be considered for either (date) of these classes, you must submit additional documentation as proof that you hold a current firearm instructor certificate as per Government Code §411.190. The following items are acceptable:
• NRA certified firearm instructor - please submit a copy of certificate of training and a copy your unexpired NRA identification card.
• TCLEOSE firearm instructor - please submit a copy your TCLEOSE firearm instructor certificate. (Please note, that “basic instructor” is not sufficient.)
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And per the statues, it states handgun instructor, so if you are only an NRA rifle, shotgun or something other than pistol instructor then it will not be acceptable.

As for renewals, since the legislature is in session year there may be changes due to pending bills, so they do not know what may or may not be required at present until the 6 month time frame where they will start issuing the renewal certificates.