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waynegs wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote: Yeah, those seem like odd choices for a lady who was a school teacher...unless she was, wait for it, straw purchasing and buying the guns that her son wanted but couldn't have on his own. He was a gamer and I speak from experience that there are all sorts of "cool" guns in video games. He tells mommy "Buy me this thing" and she wants to make her kid happy and goes and gets it for him. So, I can see how the guns in question MIGHT have come into the picture. The major problems I have with this whole thing still rest upon the liberal-progressive media propaganda machine, for one. And it seems that so many of these killers have been on those SRI and other neurotransmitter-effecting drugs. Many on this forum like to say that "guns and alcohol" don't mix, well it seems that guns and those psychotropic meds don't mix too well, either.

From what I have read, the mom was a Prepper. If that is true, the guns do not seem all that odd.

Ericstac wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote:

Ericstac wrote:^^ I'm guilty of that. My kids play games, then say how cool such and such guns are, just like mine.. Then for Xmas they get 1911s and AR15s.... In the form of Airsoft though.

Ericstac, just wanted to let you know I'm just offering my own guess as that is all we get now, guesses. My theory is neither more or less valid than yours since we can't prove anything about it. The overall truth, though, is that there are already a lot of laws on the books that aren't being enforced, or are done in a slap-dash manner. And like I said, the biggest problems I have with the mess surrounding this entire thing I place square on the shoulders of these so-called journalists who are blatantly agenda-driven and really don't care about the safety of kids, just about getting control of firearms in this nation as part of their ideology.

Oh, I know. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything. Sorry if I came across as a...donkey.

Ericstac wrote:^^ I'm guilty of that. My kids play games, then say how cool such and such guns are, just like mine.. Then for Xmas they get 1911s and AR15s.... In the form of Airsoft though.

Ericstac wrote:http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226



STATE OF CONNECTICUT
Department of Emergency Services &
Public Protection
Connecticut State Police
Public Information Office
1111 Country Club Road
Middletown, Connecticut 06457

Contact:
860-685-8230
DESPP.Feedback
Reuben Bradford
Commissioner Colonel Danny R. Stebbins
Deputy Commissioner
Division of State Police
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 18, 2013


** UPDATE **

STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION;
INVESTIGATION CONTINUES

In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene.

Seized inside the school:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun


Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)




So back to my question, mom had a bushy, glock, sig AND an Izzy??? Yeah right. Where did he get them guns.

The Annoyed Man wrote:The shooting itself happened, more or less as reported (accounting for journalistic errors). But everything immediately following stinks like rotten fish.

Diane Feinstein's bill was not cobbled together in response to the shooting. By her own admission, she had been working on it for over a year. She was just waiting for the right tragedy to happen to spring it on us.

The laughing parent, who it turns out is some kind of actor....

The insistence on the use of a "Bushmaster," when one of the news channels—CBS I think, but I could be wrong about that—finally, just a few days ago, admitted that the long gun that was involved was actually in the trunk of the shooter's car (I refuse to name that monster by name). On the video showing it being removed, any fool can see that it isn't even an AR pattern rifle. It looks to me more like a Saiga of some sort. Within DAYS of JFK's assassination, we had pictures in the press of Oswald's rifle, and this was before the modern "information age." (I am not one who subscribes to the multiple shooter theory. I've been to the 6th floor museum and looked out the window. I could have made those shots with a well functioning bolt rifle. The distance was only 60 yards to where the fatal head shot was delivered.) WHERE IS THE ALLEGED BUSHMASTER RIFLE? The shooting happened on December 14, 2012. Here we are almost a month and a half later. Has anybody seen a picture of the shooter's ACTUAL "Bushmaster rifle?" I haven't. HOW COME, IN THE FULL COURT PRESS TO BAN MODERN SPORTING RIFLES, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROCURE A PICTURE OF THE SHOOTER'S ACTUAL "BUSHMASTER RIFLE"? They haven't, because they can't.

Eyewitnesses, on scene at the school, repeatedly describe the shooter as having either 2 or 4 handguns. Not one has mentioned him carrying a long gun.

The ME claims that he removed several .223 bullets from the bodies of the 7 children on whom he personally performed autopsies. Those bullets would have been fired within the confines of a classroom—point blank for an AR15. I have personally helped to treat hundreds of gunshot patients. Even a .22 LR will often go right through an adult, unless it hits bone. How is it that a rifle, firing a projectile weighing 50%-100% more than a .22 LR bullet (we don't know the bullet weight, but it has to be in that range), traveling at 3X the velocity of a .22 LR bullet, did not go all the way through and through the body of a 6 or 7 year old child? I'm not buying that he found .223 bullets inside those poor children's bodies. And by the way, how is it that a medical examiner in a sleepy Connecticut county and a bedroom community can claim to be the most experienced gunshot wound expert in the country? (In the video he asserts that nobody knows more about gunshot wound dynamics than he does.)

So no, I have no problem accepting that this monster stole his mother's guns, even a long gun, using at least one of them to murder her. I have no problem believing that he drove to Sandy Hook Elementary School. I have no problem believing that he forced his way into the school, or that he shot down 20 children and 6 adults in cold blood.....or psychotic rage....take your pick. I have no problem believing that he killed himself when he heard the approaching sirens.

What I have a very hard time swallowing is everything after that. It is just TOO orchestrated. TOO MUCH information that is convenient to the AWB crowd is published, and TOO LITTLE information (show me THE RIFLE) that is NOT convenient to them has been suppressed.

I am NOT a conspiracy nut. I don't believe in a JFK conspiracy, and have posted that before. I don't believe in a 9/11 "inside job" conspiracy. I don't believe that there are preserved bodies of aliens held at Area 51. But the aftermath of this Sandy Hook shooting stinks to high heaven.