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by K.Mooneyham
Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:41 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Dove Hunters Held at Gunpoint by MP's
Replies: 38
Views: 9886

Re: Dove Hunters Held at Gunpoint by MP's

ssnstump wrote:May be in the replies somewhere, but I haven't had the chance to read them all.

The only action that will carry any weight is to contact the Commanding Officer no matter the rank.
Demand to see him or her face to face and lay out what happened. I'm sure the report they received did not
detail the situation from the hunter's point of view. Base police are often private security and mostly inept.
At least those that I have seen in action.

The punnishment for those involved should as in my boot camp days - ALL in the unit even if not involved be
punished equally. This ensures this type of behavior doesn't happen again. Peers will not tolerate this when
their hide is also on the line.

Security of sensitive material has nothing to do with ruthlessness of security personel.
As long as they don't breech the fence, no law or rule is broken. PERIOD!
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way anymore. I'm a 21-year veteran of the USAF, and "retired" from active service 5 years ago, and I have two kids in the USAF. There are no more "code reds" or "blanket parties", so punishing everyone for the transgressions of a few doesn't make any difference. I'm certain that there was a bit of a stink over this incident, and I'm also certain that it's been handled.
by K.Mooneyham
Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:03 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Dove Hunters Held at Gunpoint by MP's
Replies: 38
Views: 9886

Re: Dove Hunters Held at Gunpoint by MP's

I can imagine that the base commander was mortified about the incident (they typically hate anything that makes the Air Force look bad and generates negative attention from the higher ups). So, the "Wing King" (or Queen) probably called the Security Forces Squadron commander into the office, and using some specific and forceful language, asked what those cops were thinking, what sort of training did they receive, and how quickly are they going to receive additional training, and maybe the weekend is a good time to do that. I doubt anything major will happen to them for their over-zealousness because they were just protecting the base. That said, the base likes to keep good relations with the locals, so I guarantee something will happen to mollify those affected. So, I'd imagine those young cops were made to see the error of their ways, a massive Powerpoint program has already been created addressing this situation, and two new layers of training will accompany it, and perhaps even some sort of an apology will be in the works. That's the "Air Force way".

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