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by K.Mooneyham
Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:45 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations
Replies: 103
Views: 24257

Re: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations

ScottDLS wrote:The Texas statutes regarding carry are not regulations, they are laws. Criminal laws in the case of 30.06/07. I think they are fairly well written, and being criminal in nature they generally must be interpreted in favor of the defendant if the facts are in doubt.

Regulations exist mostly at the federal level and they all must have enabling statutes. The bureaucracy is then responsible to draft the regulations in accordance with the enabling law. In my experience, they are rarely as clear as statutes, and are subject to wide ranging interpretation by non-lawyer officials, usually in favor of the government. If the FAA is able to draft regulations that are clearly understandable to non-lawyer pilots, they should give lessons to the IRS, EPA, FDA, USDA, SEC, and myriad other federal agencies as their expertise doesn't seem to have spread widely. :biggrinjester:
I think thetexan is trying to have one over on me. Anyone who holds some sort of Federal aviation certificate and has read the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs) knows that even if pilots and mechanics had input, that the lawyers are the ones who wrote those things. The school I attended taught a whole class on them just to teach what was really in there, where to find relevant sections, and for us to understand what was most important, so we would know how to keep ourselves out of trouble with the FAA. Which is kind of what being on this forum will do for you.
by K.Mooneyham
Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:04 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations
Replies: 103
Views: 24257

Re: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations

thetexan wrote:
K.Mooneyham wrote:*If this is not allowed, moderator please delete*

I want to ask "thetexan" one question: do you own some sort of business, such as a gas station, where you are trying to keep people from lawfully carrying handguns? I ask this because you seem extremely vehement about the whole thing, and I'm trying to understand why.
I'm happy to answer your question. No I do not own a business that has any bearing on this debate. I do own a service business. I have no self agenda except to bring focus to and promote assumption-free debate and analysis to what is a valuable learning environment.

It has been my experience that most regulations do not need "interpretation". Most regs are well written and do not require analytical gymnastics to understand. But many times the simplicity of the rule conflicts with what
we WANT the rules to say.

So I try to remove any of my own interpretations or biases when I state my case.

Any vehement passion you may detect is simply my attempting to bring straying arguments back to the reality of the statutes as written rather than interpretations and assumptions of what we want the rules to say.

Everyone is free to make their arguments and inputs and we can all determine what makes sense. Everyone can contribute and the free flow of ideas and collective wisdom will benefit us all. Logic and rational, reasoned thought, I trust, will always rule the day.

tex
What sort of a "service business" might that be? Despite your assurances of no self agenda, I just feel that something must be driving your intense opinion on the subject. The motivations of individuals tell me a lot about things in life. Me, I'm not police or a lawyer nor anything of the sort, just an aircraft mechanic. As an aircraft mechanic, I like things to be as concrete as they can be, something either is or is not. I don't care for ambiguities nor sophistry.
by K.Mooneyham
Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:11 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations
Replies: 103
Views: 24257

Re: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations

*If this is not allowed, moderator please delete*

I want to ask "thetexan" one question: do you own some sort of business, such as a gas station, where you are trying to keep people from lawfully carrying handguns? I ask this because you seem extremely vehement about the whole thing, and I'm trying to understand why.
by K.Mooneyham
Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:10 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations
Replies: 103
Views: 24257

Re: 30.06 and 30.07 signs at gas stations

This post is a great example of why so many people have so little faith in our justice system. Has anyone ever heard of the Code of Hammurabi? To the best of my knowledge, it was the first time laws were actually written down for all to see. Up until then, the law was whatever the ruler made up on the spot. The punishments were harsh, of course, but at least it was written down. Now, of course, we have tons (literally if you printed it on paper) of laws, and a lot of it is no clearer to the average person who has zero intent of doing something wrong than it was before laws were written down. And, of course, we have people who love to torture the law into whatever will get someone into trouble, confounding mere mortals and perhaps consigning them to a life with a criminal record when no harm was done to anyone. The whole thing leaves me sadly shaking my head.

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