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poppo wrote:

PaJ wrote:I think how to define "carrying" is the rub. The bill requires a "belt or shoulder holster". If I get in my car and want to make my weapon more accessible, I cannot put it in a holster mounted in some other fashion and have it 'open'. So now, I would have to resort to the CC laws currently in place. OC should make our lives easier, even for those who don't often open carry.

I'm still not getting the issue. Open carry, does not mean open display on your dashboard or anywhere. As noted earlier, just cover it up as we have always been doing. A non-issue IMO.

here's the beauty of this particular thread. For some it's a non issue. For others it's a stumbling block. But we are all pulling for the same goal. Personally I'd like to find new ways to comfortably and legally carry in my truck. If what you do today works for you that is great. We both just want a solution that works for us and they aren't far apart.

Now the pot I stirred on my Facebook this week regarding campus carry is another story.

JKTex wrote:I'm scratching my head over this thread. The bill and the subject of license to carry whether concealed or open has to do with the carrying of a handgun, or in the words of the Constitution, wearing. It has nothing to do with how a handgun is or is not stored in a car. What was quoted in the OP is simply extending the same thing to open carry. Nothing changes, a CHL holder would still permitted or limited to carry the same way whether in or out of a car just as it is now.

I think how to define "carrying" is the rub. The bill requires a "belt or shoulder holster". If I get in my car and want to make my weapon more accessible, I cannot put it in a holster mounted in some other fashion and have it 'open'. So now, I would have to resort to the CC laws currently in place. OC should make our lives easier, even for those who don't often open carry.

While I may rarely open carry, to be able to take my gun out of concealment and use a car mounted holster with easier access would be great. Then when I leave the car, I reholster and re-conceal. The "belt or shoulder" requirement prevents that. In a holster nearby (such as steering column mount), the weapon would still be "on or about" the person but not in a "belt or shoulder holster".

While I cannot say for sure, I think it could be argued that "carrying" doesn't require "wearing". I carry stuff in my truck all the time. The country's founders carried stuff on their horses. That's why (I believe) the law reads "on or about" instead of just "on".

If I read it correctly, simply changing that to "holster" would make it OK to use any holster without concealing in a car, thus accomplishing the purpose. Or mounting a belt holster as shown in the pics. Right?