Thanks for expanding. I have about an hours worth of time dealing with federal regs...I think I'll take your advice.couzin wrote:OK - I will try again (this time without the attempt at humour). The legal 'test' is "by legal means" - simply, fishing is limited to certain ways of taking (line, pole, net, trot, noodling, bow and arrow, crossbow). You can't shoot fish - and contrary to some opinions, a gator is not a fish and is not included on your fish license. Hunting has to meet the same test - a legal means AND as permitted by the particular area (shotgun only, blah blah)(nothing in this post is discussing concealed carry). The regulations you cite mean that the 'legal means of taking' are made safe ('unloaded') until you reach your hunting or fishing spot. That is - you crossbow needs to be uncocked and no bolt, you don't walk across the parking lot with an arrow notched and drawn, and - I guess, your rod and reel rig doesn't have one of those exploding worms attached. Same thing as hunting - you don't load your firearm at home and carry it all the way up into your stand loaded. Bottom line - you cannot have a firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun) on USACE lands or waters unless legally hunting. Trying to find a loophole is just wasting time. You do what you feel you must do and be willing to take the heat if caught I guess. I have 30 years dealing with Federal regs, laws, and EOs, 20 with USACE. BTW - I dispute that we are an arrogant organization.AcesFull wrote:Federal property is restricted in reference to concealed carry, but this has nothing to do with concealed carry.
I too would like a definitive answer. Not holding my breath though. I've read numerous discussions between people more educated in legal matters than I and I always seem to walk away more confused.
My boat is an offshore boat and we never leave port without being well armed. Caught a large Tiger shark once after fighting it for 4 hours. That would have required a firearm to bring it aboard!

