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- Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:06 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
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Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Just to clarify... According to Mr. Ledbetter he is in charge of the gates only, and is in no way involved in security. In his words, he makes sure that everyone coming into the fair has a ticket.
- Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
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Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Well, I had a few spare minutes so I decided to call Mr. Ledbetter just to see if anything had changed. After tap dancing and skirting around the issue he confirmed that the policy to collect CHL information is still in effect. He preemptively explained to me that the State Fair was a private entity on private property and that if I was demanding to bring my “gun” in that they had not YET decided to deny CHL’s access while carrying. He said carrying a "gun" was discouraged because it's an amusement park with families and lots of people present. He further stated that the information was being collected to help aid the Dallas Police should any issues arise. He said this would give them a list to know where to start looking. (I am not sure what that meant, but asking him wasn’t going to get me anywhere). He vaguely mentioned weapons being lost on rides and that although they had not yet had an “accidental discharge”, there were reports of some folks being alarmed by weapons not properly concealed. He mentioned several times that since there is such a large contingency of uniformed officers present that it was very unlikely I would need a “gun”. I kindly explained that I didn’t know when, if ever, I would need my sidearm, but it was certainly better to be prepared while walking from my car, especially due to the nature of the surrounding areas. He then suggested that I take the DART, or park on the grounds as they have had reports of vehicle break-ins and stereo and electronics theft outside of the park.
Let me say that I was very polite and respectful, but it didn’t take long for Mr. Ledbetter to tire of my questions. He was polite, but seemed quite irritated when I asked him how the NPPI (Non-Public Personal Information) was being handled, how it was being stored, how long it was being kept, how is was secured, and at what point was it destroyed. He further explained that the security company was in charge of handling that, it wasn’t his arena.
If nothing else, they might be breaking the law as there are specific guidelines as to how certain entities handled NPPI. Mr. L. did refer to me the company in charge of handling security and gave me their number.
Platinum Security 214-364-9499
When I pressed him on the fact that the grounds are public property he disagreed and quickly became defensive and told me that he was just “a little guy” in all of this, sarcastically stating that since I knew more than him, despite his years of experience working there, that I should probably speak to a lawyer to handle this. While he was polite except for the defensive sarcasm, he’s not very bright, and he certainly isn’t on our side or even neutral for that matter.
Ultimately I got that feeling that he had more questions on this than he was going to admit, and that he was starting to lose his patience on the issue.
Let me say that I was very polite and respectful, but it didn’t take long for Mr. Ledbetter to tire of my questions. He was polite, but seemed quite irritated when I asked him how the NPPI (Non-Public Personal Information) was being handled, how it was being stored, how long it was being kept, how is was secured, and at what point was it destroyed. He further explained that the security company was in charge of handling that, it wasn’t his arena.
If nothing else, they might be breaking the law as there are specific guidelines as to how certain entities handled NPPI. Mr. L. did refer to me the company in charge of handling security and gave me their number.
Platinum Security 214-364-9499
When I pressed him on the fact that the grounds are public property he disagreed and quickly became defensive and told me that he was just “a little guy” in all of this, sarcastically stating that since I knew more than him, despite his years of experience working there, that I should probably speak to a lawyer to handle this. While he was polite except for the defensive sarcasm, he’s not very bright, and he certainly isn’t on our side or even neutral for that matter.
Ultimately I got that feeling that he had more questions on this than he was going to admit, and that he was starting to lose his patience on the issue.