I guess it's a little hard for you to trust me since I'm a new member, but when my first couple of jumbo CDs mature, I could clean out a whole Apple Store.pbwalker wrote:and it's funny, but most (not all) people I run across who hate Macs just can't afford them. So they resort to Mac bashing.E2P989 wrote:That reminds me, my most liberal friends all have MACs. Though, iPhones are pretty evenly distributed among my friends (no liberal or conservative correlation).tbrown wrote:[ Image ]
That reminds me, my most liberal friends all have MACs. Though, iPhones are pretty evenly distributed among my friends (no liberal or conservative correlation).tbrown wrote:[ Image ]
My 8 year old desktop takes 26 seconds from me pushing the power button and having Photoshop CS3 fully open.Syntyr wrote:At home I have a self built PC running Windows Vista since 2008 with nary a problem. Runs all the time. Right now I have several spreadsheets open, more then a few browser sessions, a game of Call of Duty Modern Warfare, a game of Mini Ninjas and probably my Tivo video app running. It is a Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad with 4 gig of ram and a Geforce 8800 GTX video card. So no ultra crazy specs. Cost me about $1200 to put together in 2008. I will probably upgrade the video card this year sometime but the rest of the box is rock solid. It's still snappy in performance. Takes 23 seconds from the time I push the power button until I have a desktop.
You might want to look into Windows SteadyState. While it was recently discontinued, you should still be able tO find the installer for it. It supports XP and Vista. Once your wife's computer is at a good, working point, you can "freeze" it so that any changes she makes will be gone at restart. That means she'll have to save files on an external hard drive, or create a second partition to save files on. If you have to use the desktop, my documents, or application settings directory, you can remap those in the registry to the other partition or hard drive.C-dub wrote:Calm down everyone. While my thread title may have been poorly thought out it looks like it was a little prophetic. Sorry again Charles.
I've always been curious about Macs, but was so much a PC person that I never took the initiative to learn about them. I was concerned over the compatibility with MS Office products because even if I do go Mac my employer will not and I do quite a bit of work from home. I don't mess around under the hood of these things any more.
I've had my current laptop for over 6 years and haven't had any trouble. It's a 17" Toshiba Satellite running Vista. Nothing special and has been solid for me. My wife's is the same laptop, but 15". She has had several problems with hers. She always got mad at me when any of our other PCs broke down or had problems because I always asked her what she did. Well, for the last 6 years we've each had our own and her's has been in the shop every other year, while mine hasn't had one problem. We are running the same software. I don't know what she does do it.
Guess who MAC copied the mouse from? Windows.magicglock wrote:Some folks accept change better than others. For those of you that hate Mac, stop using products that have done everything possible to copy the Mac platform. (Windows, Android, tablets)Charles L. Cotton wrote:I have noticed that a lot of folks say a Mac is okay because it can be set up to boot as either a PC or a Mac? So a Mac is okay because it can act like a PC and it only costs three times as much to be able to get around to being a PC.
Hmmmmmm
I think I'll keep the PC for 1/3 the price and not have to go through the transformation from Mac to PC.
Bye again!
Chas.
There are a lot of 3rd party, free programs you can use to modify and tweak the GUI. Not so much with MACs though.StevenFromTexas wrote:If Microsoft doesn't ditch that Windows 8 overlay, my next desktop computer will be an Apple product.
My 8 year old, self-built Windows desktop cost $1,100 back then. Today you can buy new hardware with the same or better specs for about $500. It still runs like a champ. I keep it well ventilated and clean out the dust every 6 to 12 months. (It even runs Windows 7 very well, haven't tried Win 8 yet)RottenApple wrote:Not only that, but Mac hardware lasts (and stays relevant) a LOT longer than PC hardware. We continued to use 2 "pop-click-zooms"* (the original G3 iMan all-in-ones) for the kids until we upgraded last year. They were each about 10+ years old and ran all but the absolute latest software. When we upgraded our home systems, we donated the G3s to another family for their kid's homeschool group.sjfcontrol wrote:It doesn't need to be dual-booted. You can run windows in a Mac window using either Vmware Fusion or Parallels Desktop. This gives you the ability to run programs on the Mac that have no Mac equivalents. Legacy programs, etc. So then you can switch back and forth between Mac programs and Windows programs just by switching between windows.
Now we are running a 2006 iMac, a 2011 MacMini, a 2012 MacMini, and a 2012 27" iMac. All systems have Office 2011 for Mac installed as well as iWork '09. Even the 2006 iMac outperforms most of today's modern PCs. Unless something happens to it, we won't be upgrading it for several more years. For Windows-based apps (of which we only have one), we've installed Parallels Desktop on the 27" iMac and simply run it when that one application is needed.
Look at it this way, PCs typically need replaced every 2 years to stay current. Yet Macs continue to run current software for 10+ years. So you can buy a new PC every 2 years (at an average cost of $500/desktop/year = $2500) or by a 27" iMac for $1800 and have it last 10 years. All in all, Macs are the best bang for the buck.
* They were given the nickname "pop-click-zoom" because of the sound they make on boot.
Just please don't stick them on your car! A couple days ago, I saw a car with 11(!) Apple stickers on the back window. If I was a bad guy, I know which car I would be breaking into first.SATX-Scrub wrote:As a bonus, you get some really cool Apple stickers for your safe.
Have you tried Thunderbird (by Mozilla)?baldeagle wrote:I use Office 2011 on my Macs. Outlook on my workstation at work is a nightmare. I hate it. At home it works fine. I've had zero problems with Word, Excel or Powerpoint.C-dub wrote:Certainly are of the potential war and absolutely do not want one. The pros you mentioned are why I'm considering a Mac. I've been lucky for years or all the precautions I've taken have been effective or both.
MagicGlock, do you have any experience with any of the MS Office suite products on your Mac?
I haven't brushed up on my MAC knowledge recently, but I believe the "mighty mouse" has a right click button. It's just not evident because the casing on the mouse is one piece. Also, I think on MAC laptops, there is a finger gesture for the multitouch trackpads that will be interpreted as a right-click.baldeagle wrote:Not having a right mouse button will cause you no end of frustration, until you figure it out. Getting the CD to eject will drive you batty.
Well, at least iMacs are somewhat portable for being a desktop. This reminds me when I was back in high school and another student brought in his whole iMac to plug into the classroom's projector, because the school computers ran Windows and didn't have software to play his presentation.C-dub wrote:Yeah, that's going to be an issue if I stay with a laptop and may be a deal breaker. That's one reason why I'm considering an iMac, probably the 27". It'll cost more than the PC laptop I'd get, but might be worth it in a desktop.E2P989 wrote:Since you'll be spending a good chunk of change by purchasing a MAC, you can save some money and earn some street credz by trying either OpenOffice or LibreOffice:C-dub wrote:Certainly are of the potential war and absolutely do not want one. The pros you mentioned are why I'm considering a Mac. I've been lucky for years or all the precautions I've taken have been effective or both.
MagicGlock, do you have any experience with any of the MS Office suite products on your Mac?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?nodetect
http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/
Unfortunately I cannot answer that question as I am not familiar with that area of expertise. I can just say that a MAC is a computer, and computers follow their programming and hardware limitations. That means, a computer is only as secure as it's designers/developers make it. And we're all humans.C-dub wrote:Thanks for finally jumping in and welcome. Iv'e read these reasons for the apparent increase security level of Macs. However, isn't their OS and basic firewall structure at least a little more difficult to break into?E2P989 wrote:First, in response to the idea that MACs are less susceptible to malware, that's because Apple is relying on the idea of "security through obscurity." Macs are only a small percentage of the whole market share, so a cracker (malicious hacker or script kiddie) will get his/her biggest bang for the buck by targeting computers running Windows. If you want the best "security through obscurity," go with Linux.
Since you'll be spending a good chunk of change by purchasing a MAC, you can save some money and earn some street credz by trying either OpenOffice or LibreOffice:C-dub wrote:Certainly are of the potential war and absolutely do not want one. The pros you mentioned are why I'm considering a Mac. I've been lucky for years or all the precautions I've taken have been effective or both.
MagicGlock, do you have any experience with any of the MS Office suite products on your Mac?
