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by RJGold
Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:29 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: I want a 7.62 / .308
Replies: 29
Views: 5073

Re: I want a 7.62 / .308

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
markthenewf wrote:That being said, TAM is correct as well: AR10's are pretty tough as well. If I were doing it all over, I'd really just look into an Armalite AR10. It's an AR platform, so you can slap a lot of stuff on it (if you want) and the newer ones are also set up to take PMAGs.
Some of them are... It's the AR-10A. The regular AR-10 still uses their proprietary mags.

(Really, why anyone would make a modern rifle that doesn't take PMAGs is beyond me, but I'm not a gun designer...)
Rock River .308s......at least some of them.......also use a proprietary magazine. I might be wrong, but I suspect what's happened is that the .308/7.62 rifles have not been under anywhere near the same pressure to standardize as the .223/5.56 rifles because the .308s aren't a standard-issue military weapons platform.

I am just speculating here, but one of the lessons from combat in both Afghanistan and Iraq has been that the 5.56 cartridge is thought by a lot of people to be inadequate to desert and mountain warfare.....lacking the oomph at longer ranges that a .30 caliber cartridge has. Until now, AR10s are only in limited use, as a sniper/DMR type of platform. Is it possible that the defense department, desiring to retain the training and manual of arms of the AR platform, but requiring a more robust cartridge, might start swapping out M4s for M110s (or whatever they'll call them).....possibly but not necessarily in .308, or maybe in .260 Remington or something like that? If something like that were to happen, the AR10 making industry would be more or less forced into magazine standardization.

Just a thought.......
You're probably on to something here. There has been no historical 7.62 (NATO) option mass produced in the US. When I was in the Army, our 7.62 weapons were the M-60 (belt fed) and the M-14 sniper rifle. I don't think there's been any mass produced 7.62 options added since then.

Other countries have 7.62 weapons as their primary infantry weapon (FN-FAL for example).

If every US soldier were carrying 7.62, you'd see standardization of civilian options.

My two cents.
by RJGold
Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:23 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: I want a 7.62 / .308
Replies: 29
Views: 5073

Re: I want a 7.62 / .308

The Annoyed Man wrote:Something different in a .308/762 caliber I ran across. Could be fun......if there's enough beer.........

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by RJGold
Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:25 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: I want a 7.62 / .308
Replies: 29
Views: 5073

Re: I want a 7.62 / .308

I really appreciate all of the input on this.

I have a follow up question for the M1A folks:

Is there any benefit (or advantage) of going with a vintage (of some certain year model) M1A vs those available now (current year model)?

Just curious if there's anything better about an old one than a new one (other than nostalgia).

Thanks again for all the input.
by RJGold
Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:52 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: I want a 7.62 / .308
Replies: 29
Views: 5073

Re: I want a 7.62 / .308

TheDude wrote:
EEllis wrote:I have been looking for a mini 30 myself but don't forget about the SKS. For the price it's hard to beat if you are just looking for something to start off with..
I think he means a 7.62x51 not 7.62x39.
Thanks Dude.

I didn't specify but I was thinking NATO not Warsaw Pact.

Maybe I should broaden my horizons so I'll take comments on the other 7.62 as well.
by RJGold
Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:48 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: I want a 7.62 / .308
Replies: 29
Views: 5073

I want a 7.62 / .308

I want to add something in 7.62 / .308 to my collection. I am trying to decide between something on an AR frame vs. an M1A style.

I know there are as many opinions as there are options but I wanted to get some feedback frome some of you who already own one or both in terms of pros / cons or lessons learned:

Thanks in advance for your input...

Let 'er rip!!!

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