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TxFire wrote: If they come through the walls or roof, they want in worse than I want them out. But I agree that going that route is not really all that difficult. Been there and done that.

I agree. My only point was that a homemade safe may not be all that secure unless it's made of steel or concrete.

Truth be told, it's nearly impossible to keep someone from getting something from you if they REALLY want it. I suppose that's what insurance is for though.

On the other hand, I subscribe to the theory that if you make your house a hard target then most thieves will likely move on to find an easier one.

Anyway...back on safes. I didn't mean to hijack this thread.

longtooth wrote:I'll put the thread back on track. My "safe" is for security only. I made it. Lag bolted from inside to an inner wall of the garage. Takes 2 keys to get in. Very thief proof. Not very fire proof. Store all hunting & defense long guns & range hand guns in it. There is room for all my hunting ammo and PD ammo with room to spare.

Just out of curiosity, what is your "safe" made out of? I'm in construction and know a lot about construction materials and how houses and buildings are built. I'll tell you that unless your "safe" is made of steel or reinforced concrete then I'm not sure that I'd consider it "very thief proof". I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but with the right tools it's pretty easy to get past a wood framed wall...even if it has bricks & mortar on the outside.

On that note, your typical stick & brick house is far from secure. People spend lots of money to secure their doors and windows and never even consider how EASY it is for a person go through walls or the roof....but I digress.

I have two.

One is a knock off of the Gun Vault pistol safe that is bolted to my nightstand. I keep my carry pistol in there. Just punch in a 5 number combination and the door pops open. There's nothing fancy about it, but my only intent in getting it was to keep my carry pistol out of my childrens' hands while still being able to get to it quickly if needed.

I also have a 14 gun Sentry safe bolted to the wall in my closet. That's where I keep my long guns and pistols that don't see everyday use.