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Abraham wrote:If a person can lawfully O.C. - why do they have to 'walk on eggshells' concerned they may upset others?

It's not provocation if it's legal, is it?

While I personally don't care to O.C., if it becomes legal in Texas and someone is lawfully O.C.ing, why should they be concerned about stepping on toes?

If the law is on the books, but O.C. folks are constantly stopped, I.D., checked etc. then it's not really legal is it?

You can open carry a long rifle in Texas, perfectly legal. I promise that you will draw unwanted attention from everyone and will have a cops called. At the end of the day though its legal and nothing they can do.

texanjoker wrote:

He may have not been looking for a confrontation. Most everyone who has a modern cellphone has a video camera and alot of people record interaction with LEOs just for proof. Cops know that they cannot approach someone for a legal activity, but they do it anyway. If I lived in a all white neighborhood and saw a black guy driving down the road and called the cops do you think they would waste their time to stop him?

That is incorrect. An officer can contact anybody they wish, including somebody that is not doing anything wrong. That is a consensual encounter. The person is free to leave at any time.

I believe the people out there trying to be confrontational hurt more then they help. They are the ones that keep trying to egg the leo's on even when they won't play and are just doing their job. I would be curious how much real footage there is out there of these incidents, but when the leo's do the right thing they don't air it as that is against their agenda of drama.

That is true but the video I posted was not a consensual encounter, the law student asked a few times if he was free to leave, the LEO would not give him his gun back and let him leave.

RX8er wrote:The only problem I have with this video is that he was "looking for a fight" and that is not good for the OC movement. I agree that we all should be forceful when pushing back on our rights but IMHO, it does no good to go looking for a fight to push an agenda. Amoung the anti crowd, this guy was bashed for wasting the officers time to picking fights to being defiant. On one site, a lady says "see, these gun grabbers are always just looking for a fight and don't listen to LEO. The officer could have been shot so we need to take guns away."

I ask an anti buddy of mine what he thinks of the protests and his comment is always about the redneck, foul mouth, EOTWAWKI, hick talkin', suspender shirtless guys that are unedumacated that he sees on the news. We need more guys in suites with educations talking intelligently about guns and our rights.

He may have not been looking for a confrontation. Most everyone who has a modern cellphone has a video camera and alot of people record interaction with LEOs just for proof. Cops know that they cannot approach someone for a legal activity, but they do it anyway. If I lived in a all white neighborhood and saw a black guy driving down the road and called the cops do you think they would waste their time to stop him?

If cops get a call about someone open carrying then they should just do a drive by, if they see the person walking with a holstered firearm then they have no reason to stop them. Better yet when someone calls 911 and says someone is walking down main street with a holstered gun the dispatcher should inform the caller that its a legal activity and there is nothing they can do about it. The law student was right even though the cop said it was common practice to stop and question him its still illegal.

This law student knows how to handle being stopped for open carry.

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Thanks to this video Officers in alot of open carry states have been informed that they CANNOT approach someone just for open carry.