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by paperchunker
Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
Replies: 119
Views: 15546

Re: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

:deadhorse:
I understand that the officer does not need to show anyone the warrant IF it exists. However, what keeps getting glossed over is the fact that it did not exist at the time of the incident.

Following this thread is like watching a Jay Carney news briefing. Some people will never admit their side might have made a mistake.
by paperchunker
Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:02 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
Replies: 119
Views: 15546

Re: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

DEB wrote:I read this and I ask myself what would I do? First thank God my son has completed both High School and College without too much drama. But with that said, I considered myself then and now as the primary protector for my family. What happened to Policeman instead of Law Enforcement Person? I know it is hard doing verbal de-escalation but arresting a mother for doing what is natural? With the heightened tensions in this Nation concerning Government Enforcers and the people, you come to my home and without even talking with me and just want to snatch my child? What about the community's feelings toward L.E. now? All deference to EElis and others on this board, but the fight could be on. I didn't spend 21 years in the Military because I enjoyed it, it was for my Family first and foremost. I know I would lose the fight, be arrested or worse, but that is my makeup. I am not Mr. Brave, but my family is my family and others are strangers and possible dangers to my family unit. But, bring me in on what is going on, give me that chance to protect my family, through Lawyers, Pastors or whatnot and all will consider themselves winners. Or don't, everyone's choice...We can continue to make it an us against them, when in reality we usually have the same goals.
:iagree:
I started to say the same thing, but what I wrote was not as articulate as you so I erased it.
by paperchunker
Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:23 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant
Replies: 119
Views: 15546

Re: Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

EEllis wrote:
G26ster wrote: I just think that if the cop had waited a couple of hours for the warrant to be completed that her arrest sounds like it was within the law.

Show me the law. Cops don't have to have the warrant to make an arrest so how the heck can anyone demand to see that warrant? This is not TV. Warrants are public info and if the accused request then they have to show a copy of said warrant to the person at a later time but not before an arrest. The warrant is supposed to be available at the clerks office where you can get a copy. The office arresting someone based on a warrant "shall then inform the defendant of the offense charged and of the fact that a warrant has been issued." but never does it say the cops can't arrest till Mommy says it's OK. What the court decides to do about the defendant has no effect of the legalities of his arrest and if not for the fact that the office came by a few hours before the judge signed the warrant I believe the mothers arrest legal so the whole "contempt of cop" accusation is basically ignorance of the law.
IF the officer had informed her of the charge (that did not exist) and of the fact that a warrant had been issued (had not been) it would have been OK ?

IF a frog had wings...

Would it be ok to search the house if the officer thought that a warrant was going to be issued?

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