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by jmain
Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:59 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: My First 4 Hour Class
Replies: 46
Views: 6505

Re: My First 4 Hour Class

I see, thanks for the input.

Yea, all went well...
;)
by jmain
Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:55 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: My First 4 Hour Class
Replies: 46
Views: 6505

Re: My First 4 Hour Class

[quote="dogflightI strongly feel that NVDR should be removed completely and the time allocated to legal and safety matters. "[/quote]

So I am just curious as a new instructor (If I pass shooting proficiency tomorrow ;) ) why?

NVDR seems very appropriate.

Not arguing, really want to learn this angle of thought.
by jmain
Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:46 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: My First 4 Hour Class
Replies: 46
Views: 6505

Re: My First 4 Hour Class

dogflight wrote: I'd question the apparent edict that the legislated 4 hour minimum excludes breaks and testing (it didn't before - what changed in the actual statutes that now say it does?), but for me it's moot anyway. I'm trying to get the student as trained and informed as is possible in 360 minutes, more or less. "
Just stating what was reinforced more than 3x over last 3 days in the new instructors class.
Not stating it is a rule. ;-)
by jmain
Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:58 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: My First 4 Hour Class
Replies: 46
Views: 6505

Re: My First 4 Hour Class

switch wrote:She also said we need to shoot w/both revolver and SA because we needed to know the difference. :( How much difference is there between SA? Compare that w/the difference between NSA and SA. :) I wonder how much she knows about guns.
I don't have a problem with this.

She is an administrator. For someone that has(obviously) learned what she has about firearms because of her job, I think she was quite informed. For all I know she has had her CHL for years prior to this position. She leaned on Stuart for the actual firearms material and he definitely leaned on her for law.

That, I respect. Between the two, they had 99% of the answers.
by jmain
Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:47 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: My First 4 Hour Class
Replies: 46
Views: 6505

Re: My First 4 Hour Class

1stpalindrone wrote:Well, it seems like the 4-6 hour class should've been a 5-6 hour class...


Lucas
This is what I got out of last few days. I haven't seen the actual class "guide", but they were very repetitive that the 4 hour min included only actual instruction.
Not breaks, not the written test. 4 hours on the 4 "food groups"...which I hate the terminology, but oh well.

So anyone saying it is now a 4 hour class is slightly misrepresenting what the class is(n't).

4 hours min of actual instruction.
Let's say 10 min break every hour -40 min.
30 min for written.

Just over 5 hours of actual class time. This doesn't really account for a larger class that maybe dives into a section with more questions than normal.
I can see with smaller classes teaching 55 minutes, with a 5 minute break and calling it an hour you could reduce my example, but it is not really possible to do a true "4 hour class" and comply.
Haven't even started with shooting proficiency time.

Advertising a "4 hour class" seems to be problematic, from a business model.
If I am wrong , please correct me.

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