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ScottDLS wrote:I guess it depends on the definition of "extensive". Other than their claim that they do "extensive" background checks, you have no evidence that they do.

My "knowledge" is based on the provable facts that they do not collect enough information to do more than a cursory background check... No references, no interview, no verification of employment (if you even submit any employer info), no address verification other than making sure it matches the ID submitted... And perhaps most telling, they don't NEED to do any of those things to meet the simple requirements of the statute, so why would they?

That is what my "knowledge" is based on. Your right, it does depend on the definition of "extensive" and may I add the "cursory" to that list. To me, cursory is the phone call that a FFL makes on the sale of a firearm. Extensive would be that they request information from multiple sources. One of the biggest obstacles is giving the applicants resident county sheriffs dept. 30 days to respond why they should be denied the LTC. It is my understanding that a whole lot of sheriffs dept. only respond to deny, they let the 30 day window expire if there is nothing found. It is also my understanding that they do not start the process until fingerprinting is received. Those coupled with the huge increase of applications would explain the great increase in the amount of time the process is taking. I do not know if having offices in D/FW, Houston and somewhere in W Texas would help but IMO it would be worth a try.
However, I do not think the delays are caused by lazy employees.
Have a nice day.

ScottDLS wrote:

twomillenium wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

twomillenium wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:For $140 a pop the licenses should be paying for better services. We keep hearing how $140 is a lot of money...so use it to meet the statutory deadlines... Driver's License is $24 and they have to issue 10's of millions of them...

They don't have to do intensive background checks for them either.

I'm not convinced they do extensive investigations for LTC's either. I'll bet they do NCIC AFIS, NICS, and Texas DPS automated checks. If nothing comes up, print the card.

Not their job to worry about what you are not convinced about. Their job is to do the best they can with what they have. In the mean time have a nice day.

OK let me restate. They DON'T do extensive investigations. They check automated fingerprint system, computer databases, and then they issue the card. Do you have personal knowledge otherwise? So they're slow because they got a lot of applications this year... For $140 they should do a better job and meet the statutory deadline, or better yet, eliminate the requirement for a license like several other states have done.

They say they do extensive background checks. Do you have knowledge that they don't? Provable knowledge, not a gut feeling. Oh and have nice day.

ScottDLS wrote:

twomillenium wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:For $140 a pop the licenses should be paying for better services. We keep hearing how $140 is a lot of money...so use it to meet the statutory deadlines... Driver's License is $24 and they have to issue 10's of millions of them...

They don't have to do intensive background checks for them either.

I'm not convinced they do extensive investigations for LTC's either. I'll bet they do NCIC AFIS, NICS, and Texas DPS automated checks. If nothing comes up, print the card.

Not their job to worry about what you are not convinced about. Their job is to do the best they can with what they have. In the mean time have a nice day.

ScottDLS wrote:For $140 a pop the licenses should be paying for better services. We keep hearing how $140 is a lot of money...so use it to meet the statutory deadlines... Driver's License is $24 and they have to issue 10's of millions of them...

They don't have to do intensive background checks for them either. They also have offices and personal all over the state. (That might be a good idea for the LTC division, to put a half a dozen offices throughout the state.)

rexmitchell wrote:

twomillenium wrote:Do you whiners actually think they are playing cards or working 3 hr days?? There has been over a 200% increase in applications compared to this time last year and last year was a banner year. Patience, it will get here when it does and it won't be because they aren't working on it. Generally, people that think that others are goofing off, without knowing those people, are those who probably goofed off their whole life at someone else's expense. Last thing we need is a bunch of impatient LTCer's, hope they get weeded out.

How are people that are interested in their status, just trying to seek information "whiners". I came here just to try and get some information and see what others are experiencing. A lot of things have been answered, but there are still plenty of questions out there. People can reasonably expect to get some information regarding their status at a minimum without "whining".

Well, I should have quoted a couple of posts, but you can go back and read them and then you will understand why I stand by my statement. Not trying to offend anyone, just stating truth.

P.S. I even whine sometimes, but I try not to do it about something I know nothing about without checking into it first. (I did say try)

Do you whiners actually think they are playing cards or working 3 hr days?? There has been over a 200% increase in applications compared to this time last year and last year was a banner year. Patience, it will get here when it does and it won't be because they aren't working on it. Generally, people that think that others are goofing off, without knowing those people, are those who probably goofed off their whole life at someone else's expense. Last thing we need is a bunch of impatient LTCer's, hope they get weeded out.