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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I just deleted my last responsive post and I'm backing away from this thread. I've given my opinion and there's nothing more I can say. It's time to work like carpenter ants to keep the baby-killing, gun-grabbing, constitution-burning Hillary out of the White House. Cruz's future in politics, if any, is not an issue for today. We must win the Presidency, retain a majority in the Senate and maintain or expand our margin in the House.

Nothing else matters at the moment.
Chas.

I again agree with you on this.

twomillenium wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Okay, I guess this thread isn't going to die a natural death for a while.

Many Forum Members have repeatedly and correctly stated that, if elected officials run and win as Republicans, then they are honor-bound to support the Party's Platform. These elected officials are rightfully condemned for failing to do so.

Millions of Republicans voted in primaries around the country. Their choice, by record margins, was Donald Trump. If Cruz or anyone else wants to campaign under the Republican banner, then respect the will of those millions of Republicans and support the Party's Candidate. If you want the benefits of the Party, then support the people who make up the Party and respect their decision. Otherwise, leave the Party and run as an independent.

Chas.

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As a conservative we may, one day, have to consider just that. It will not be us leaving the party as much as the party has left us.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I started this thread, now let me try to end it without actually locking it. Many of us have given our opinions about this issue, but Cruz's actions are now history, albeit recent history. The job now is to do everything we can to get Trump elected and Hillary to the political retirement home.

Join the NRA if you are not already a Member. Donate to the NRA/ILA. Talk to your friends and family and get them involved. As I said in a prior post, 2020 is not merely four years away, it's four years and four U.S. Supreme Court Justices down the road. If Hillary wins, it won't matter if Republicans sweep the House, Senate and Presidential elections in 2020, because a 6/3 liberal majority will control the SCOTUS for an entire generation.

Chas.

Now that my dear friend is something I wholeheartedly agree with.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

twomillenium wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:Does anybody really think that Ted Cruz's speech is gonna cost Trump the election? People are saying that even the VP picks are irrelevant. I agree. The only thing that matters is Trump vs Clinton. They only thing that might win or lose the election for Trump is his own words. That's the only thing that really matters or anyone will remember when they go to the voting booth.

I agree with you to an extent, but the "Cruz factor" that concern's me is his supporters staying home, or not voting in the Presidential election. Look at the stunt they tried to pull off at the Rules Committee meeting and on the floor of the Convention. At least some walked out during or at the end of Cruz's speech.

In my opinion, it's not so much that Cruz gave aid to the enemy, but his failure to rally the troops to defeat Hillary.

Chas.

Sen. Cruz did rally the troops! He told everyone including his supporters to VOTE your heart. Anyone who thinks that voting your heart in Nov. might be a vote for Clinton, was not going to vote for the Republican nominee. No matter who it was.

When your Party has nominated a candidate and you say to "vote your heart/conscience" rather than "vote for ______________________," you are not rallying the troops. You are sending quite a different message.

Chas.

I respect your right to believe that. I believe the boo's were orchestrated and some folks are not for sale.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:Does anybody really think that Ted Cruz's speech is gonna cost Trump the election? People are saying that even the VP picks are irrelevant. I agree. The only thing that matters is Trump vs Clinton. They only thing that might win or lose the election for Trump is his own words. That's the only thing that really matters or anyone will remember when they go to the voting booth.

I agree with you to an extent, but the "Cruz factor" that concern's me is his supporters staying home, or not voting in the Presidential election. Look at the stunt they tried to pull off at the Rules Committee meeting and on the floor of the Convention. At least some walked out during or at the end of Cruz's speech.

In my opinion, it's not so much that Cruz gave aid to the enemy, but his failure to rally the troops to defeat Hillary.

Chas.

Sen. Cruz did rally the troops! He told everyone including his supporters to VOTE your heart. Anyone who thinks that voting your heart in Nov. might be a vote for Clinton, was not going to vote for the Republican nominee. No matter who it was.

I do not expect Sen. Cruz to endorse such a person, nor should you. I do stand with Sen. Cruz's Message and will vote with my heart for the better of bad choices (my words). I will continue to support Sen. Cruz. now and in 2018 and 2020. Just the fact that Sen. Cruz did not completely destroy this person who attacked his family because it would have completely destroyed the party, makes me admire him even more.

Come November, I believe my choices are very limited and as a patriotic American citizen and I will be voting on the slowest path of destruction. I hope and pray, I am wrong and the facts of history will not repeat themselves and the person I vote for has really suddenly changed.

While my vote will be cast for Trump it will not be an endorsement of Trump but it will be a desperate vote to keep Clinton and her ilk out of office. I also understand that it is easier for those who are not as conservative to accept Trump, I am not cut of that fabric.

This post is not intended to cast dispersion on anyone nor is it intended to flame others who disagree with me. I consider all on this forum a friend until they prove themselves unworthy of friendship. I feel most of us feel this way.

Thanks for reading my rant and I think we can all agree in November that Hillary should be sent on to fulltime Grandmother duty.