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by locke_n_load
Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is This Sign Legal?
Replies: 34
Views: 7659

Re: Is This Sign Legal?

cb1000rider wrote:
locke_n_load wrote: Personally, if a super-vision LEO arrested me when 30.06 wasn't valid in the first place, and took me to jail even though it is a class C and not an arrestable offense, and I had to sit in jail until arraignment because the DA stated they had cause to keep me, I would be suing everyone involved for false arrest and false imprisonment. And I'd have a good shot at winning too.
You have a very poor shot at any civil remedy against the LEO. Remember the burden is what a "normal" person would know in terms of legal knowledge. If a normal person wouldn't know it, then the LEO is indemnified for doing his/her duty, albeit incorrectly.
The DA doesn't keep you there until arraigned, that's just standard process.... No one to sue there.

The only way this would work is if the arresting officer stood up and admitted that he/she knew the law and arrested you anyway. What are the chances of that happening?


I think the chances of this happening are pretty good your firearm was able to be spotted... Outside of that, lightening is about right.
See below for people being arrested where carrying was lawful, then they sued and won some good money. It happens.

http://affluentinvestor.com/2015/06/cop ... gets-sued/

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.s ... gun_s.html

http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/gun-owner-ge ... al-arrest/

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/cops- ... pay-video/
by locke_n_load
Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is This Sign Legal?
Replies: 34
Views: 7659

Re: Is This Sign Legal?

cb1000rider wrote:
ScottDLS wrote: Really...he can tell that I'm carrying with his cop x-ray vision? But despite being one of law enforcement's concealed carry super spotters, he forgets that 30.06 doesn't apply and is only a class c anyway with no jail as a possible penalty. Then he calls the squad car to come and pick me up and doesn't bother to tell the dispatcher why he is transporting me and for what crime I'm being arrested.
Note, they can't sentence you to do additional time. However, the amount of time you spend sitting behind bars until arraignment, I'd personally consider "jail time". The only real requirement on arraignment seems to be a "reasonable time" - so you can spend up to a "reasonable time" in jail.

Watch out for guys with X-ray vision.

As discussed before, the LEO is probably indemnified for not knowing this little portion of the law.
Personally, if a super-vision LEO arrested me when 30.06 wasn't valid in the first place, and took me to jail even though it is a class C and not an arrestable offense, and I had to sit in jail until arraignment because the DA stated they had cause to keep me, I would be suing everyone involved for false arrest and false imprisonment. And I'd have a good shot at winning too.

On another note, you could also be struck by lightning, so you better stay at your home instead.
by locke_n_load
Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:23 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is This Sign Legal?
Replies: 34
Views: 7659

Re: Is This Sign Legal?

Solaris wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:
Solaris wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:Too blurry to read.
However, the Irving Convention Center is owned by the city of Irving according to Wikipedia, therefore any 30.06 signs are unenforceable (if that was the sign), so carry away (concealed). May have a problem if you tried to OC (although you would technically be in the right).
Hope you had a good time.
True but why the makeshift sign?

School Sponsored Event? Govt Meeting?
Because gov't and businesses try to circumvent the law, that's why.
Then it would be up permanently

eta

the point is it could be a prohibited place, and the sign may or may not be valid. this is why the sign should not be allowed to be used for anything but 30.06/07.
Carrying onto that property is not a violation of 30.06. 30.06 does not apply on gov't property, therefore that sign is invalid. You could break other laws there, for example if a pro sports event was going on, but you would not be breaking 30.06 (which I think is the point your were making). 30.06 means nothing on that property.
by locke_n_load
Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:40 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is This Sign Legal?
Replies: 34
Views: 7659

Re: Is This Sign Legal?

Solaris wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:Too blurry to read.
However, the Irving Convention Center is owned by the city of Irving according to Wikipedia, therefore any 30.06 signs are unenforceable (if that was the sign), so carry away (concealed). May have a problem if you tried to OC (although you would technically be in the right).
Hope you had a good time.
True but why the makeshift sign?

School Sponsored Event? Govt Meeting?
Because gov't and businesses try to circumvent the law, that's why.
by locke_n_load
Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:06 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is This Sign Legal?
Replies: 34
Views: 7659

Re: Is This Sign Legal?

Abraham wrote:Wysiwyg101,

Too blurry for me to read also, but for the heck of it, lets assume the wording is proper and current for a 30.06 sign.

If you're noticed carrying by an LEO while there, do you think you might possibly encounter an ill informed officer who'll take you for "the ride" (that ill informed LEO's exist has been discussed quite recently in another thread) or a very informed officer who knows the city owned venues who post 30.06 signage is bogus for CHLers therefore will cause you no problems?

Care to gamble?

Presumably, the city authorities who defy the gun laws hope you Mr. CHL/LTC will be sufficiently chilled and/or ignorant regarding gun laws will come in unarmed as they rely on your being intimidated by bogus signage.

Various cities regarding gun laws - Pish posh they say, bah humbug, we'll do as we darn well please and you peasant have no say in the matter.

Please, Wysiwyg101, turn em in to the time released action of the AG's office.

Who knows, it just might do some good.
Concealed means concealed, don't voluntarily go up to police and bring up the subject.

OP, why did you post twice about the same subject?
by locke_n_load
Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:30 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is This Sign Legal?
Replies: 34
Views: 7659

Re: Is This Sign Legal?

Too blurry to read.
However, the Irving Convention Center is owned by the city of Irving according to Wikipedia, therefore any 30.06 signs are unenforceable (if that was the sign), so carry away (concealed). May have a problem if you tried to OC (although you would technically be in the right).
Hope you had a good time.

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