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by locke_n_load
Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12745

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

If someone thinks I am a leftist in sheep's clothing, that is out of left field. I simply like to debate the issues and am always in favor of the Constitution. Even though Trump was not my primary or secondary choice, he is now all we have left in order to defeat Hillary. I see him as wishy washy on several subjects and can/will change his mind for votes, but he is still miles above Hillary. I simply don't want any more compromises on our rights. We have compromised enough. No secret courts or lists or year long wait periods because you made a political comment on facebook.
And even though the title of this thread is not the best, you can tell that Trump has probably considered a ban for those on the list according to his tweet. I hope the NRA was/is convincing him otherwise. I listened to his speech yesterday and he did state that if some clubbers would have been armed, it may have helped. I liked what he said about firearms/2A and hope he really believes that, and that he will protect the 2A (all of it) if he gets elected.
by locke_n_load
Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:26 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12745

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

From thetruthaboutguns.com:
From the NRA:
We are happy to meet with Donald Trump. The NRA’s position on this issue has not changed. The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.
And the author makes some interesting questions:
How long would the “temporary ban” for Americans on the government’s secret, unaccountable Terrorist Watch List last? What would be the process for appealing and “un-suspending” the “temporary” ban? Does the “temporary ban” extend to firearms already in a suspect’s possession?
If you cannot buy a gun while the gov't investigates it's case, how long can that be? A month? A year? Is that not impending on one's rights?
Just a lot of questions about this list.

Full article, not endorsing all of it (just that it has some good questions):
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/0 ... les-delay/
by locke_n_load
Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12745

Re: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

parabelum wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/donal ... n-control/

Despicable but expected. Cruz wouldn't have supported this.

And I will officially renounce my lifetime NRA membership if they go along with this.
He said he will meet with NRA to discuss.

Let me ask, if you are in charge and you are approached by someone who is on watch list due to being an ISIS sympathizer who has not yet done anything to break the law per se but he/she wants to come in and buy a gun from you now, what would you do in all honesty?

Let me ask, are you ok with Americans having their rights stripped from them without the due process of law? Guilty until proven innocent?
You don't agree with the current administration, you get put on the secret list. You don't know you are on the list. You don't know who put you on the list. And you don't know how to get off of the list.
Secret Courts, McCarthyism, Salem Witch Trials, then the Terrorist and No Fly List. Pretty much all the same thing.
by locke_n_load
Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:35 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List
Replies: 59
Views: 12745

Trump Supports Gun Ban for Fly/Terror List

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/donal ... n-control/

Despicable but expected. Cruz wouldn't have supported this.

And I will officially renounce my lifetime NRA membership if they go along with this.

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