30.08 got removed. So did changing 06/07 to apply to non license holders. The way I heard it, the current version makes a gun buster a no trespass sign for non license carriers. And if they did not amend 30.05, it would be a class A misdemeanor to carry past sans license.Soccerdad1995 wrote:That sign is required if a business sells alcohol. If 90% of the businesses you enter have this sign, then I'm guessing you tend to go places that sell alcohol. And yes, this is the sign that would become obsolete.Ruark wrote:Are you talking about this sign? This is the one I'm referring to. Probably 90% of the public stores in Texas have these posted somewhere, certainly every convenience store, gas station, etc.allisji wrote:The law as indicated in the original post would get rid of the TABC blue signs. They would become obsoleteRuark wrote:Wait a minute..... We're talking about 30.08 signs... But virtually every store in Texas already has that sign saying it's a felony to enter with an unlicensed handgun. You've seen it; there must be a million of them. So all of those will have to be removed? Ignored? It'll take years to re-educate all the store owners. Messy.
Absent a 30.08 sign, then carrying a gun (without a license) past a "gun buster" sign would be a class A misdemeanor in the same way that an overweight woman who gets in a car that has a "no fat chicks" bumper sticker also commits a class A misdemeanor today. Or a sales person who walks through a gate that has a "no solicitors" sign. These unlicensed gun carriers will be joining these other types of folks in "taking the ride", and being prosecuted.
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- Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:45 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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- Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:27 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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Gunbusters already apply to long rifles, I believe.allisji wrote:What that could be a pretty steep penalty for walking past what could be a very small and inconspicuously placed sign. Do gunbuster signs as they pertain to long guns currently have the force of law?locke_n_load wrote:What's interesting, is that unless they are amending 30.05 in HB1911, carrying past a gunbuster sign, while carrying without a license, would be a class A misdemeanor, which means you could not carry or get a license for 5 years after conviction.
If you carry past 06/07 while carrying licensed, only a class C in most locations.
Subtle but important difference.
- Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:25 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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30.08 was removed from the bill. Gunbuster would invoke 30.05 last I saw. And yeah, blue TABC signs going away if it passes.Ruark wrote:Wait a minute..... We're talking about 30.08 signs... But virtually every store in Texas already has that sign saying it's a felony to enter with an unlicensed handgun. You've seen it; there must be a million of them. So all of those will have to be removed? Ignored? It'll take years to re-educate all the store owners. Messy.
- Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:05 am
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: HB1911: Rep. White's Press Release
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What's interesting, is that unless they are amending 30.05 in HB1911, carrying past a gunbuster sign, while carrying without a license, would be a class A misdemeanor, which means you could not carry or get a license for 5 years after conviction.
If you carry past 06/07 while carrying licensed, only a class C in most locations.
Subtle but important difference.
If you carry past 06/07 while carrying licensed, only a class C in most locations.
Subtle but important difference.
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:34 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: HB1911: Rep. White's Press Release
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Also about 80% for/20% Constitutional Carry.
Gotta hand it to Texas Carry and OCT, they brought numbers. Haven't seen it so lopsided in quite some time (pretty much never).
Gotta hand it to Texas Carry and OCT, they brought numbers. Haven't seen it so lopsided in quite some time (pretty much never).
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:37 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: HB1911: Rep. White's Press Release
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Mom's Demand Action - "Grassroots"
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:01 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: HB1911: Rep. White's Press Release
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And Hijinosa and this "mom" are now discussing how criminals get guns, definitely sounds like they orchestrated this beforehand.
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:00 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: HB1911: Rep. White's Press Release
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"Mom" for gun "sense" says plenty of states have research showing that strict gun law states have fewer gun deaths. Glad she has no actual sources to promote this claim.
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:55 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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So far most of the "moms" have sent in their opinion that they oppose, but haven't wanted to testify.Ruark wrote:Cripes, he said they have over NINETY people waiting to testify. Half of them will probably be Moms reading the same text. In any case, I can't watch the whole thing.
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:50 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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Terry Holcomb - Police Officers and police organizations have been waving a red flag since 1995 with the original CHL Bill, that there would be blood in the streets, and again in 2015 with open carry. There is absolutely no data showing this, they have been wrong on those two instances, and they are/will be wrong here. Stick to actual data.
Good point.
Good point.
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:32 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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Hijinosa-keeps asking how criminals get guns, not sure how it pertains to this...
- Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:31 pm
- Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
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DFW PD Officer - criminals buy guns at gun shows....