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- Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:11 am
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- Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:45 pm
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Says the guy whose avatar violates the flag code.C-dub wrote:Not wasted on me. I agree with Medic624.E.Marquez wrote:Thank you sir, but I must say, wasted breath, in general, and on many (most?) right here in this forum.Medic624 wrote: Although technically correct I would have to say, unless I am not catching the sarcasm, the reduction of reverence to the US Flag by placing it on par with belching is in of itself disrespectful. Unless you know of some obscure duel I don't recall anyone fighting and dying for the right to belch. Countless American Patriots have charged the hill and many more have fallen for the opportunity to plant the American flag knowing the only ground they held was the dirt they were standing on... So until the SCOTUS learns what it means to take incoming rounds and knows the accomplishment of being able to plant our colors or see the person who was killed beside you draped in those colors I think I will adhere to the Flag Code until court ordered to change it...

- Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:44 pm
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You mean armed criminals?Topbuilder wrote:We are lacking men like him.
- Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:41 pm
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Did you miss the qualifying statement "from a legal standpoint"? What SCOTUS understands--and you and a few others here apparently don't--is that America's soldiers aren't fighting to preserve your strongly held beliefs; they're fighting for the rights of all Americans to hold to their own beliefs, whatever those may be.Medic624 wrote:Although technically correct I would have to say, unless I am not catching the sarcasm, the reduction of reverence to the US Flag by placing it on par with belching is in of itself disrespectful. Unless you know of some obscure duel I don't recall anyone fighting and dying for the right to belch. Countless American Patriots have charged the hill and many more have fallen for the opportunity to plant the American flag knowing the only ground they held was the dirt they were standing on... So until the SCOTUS learns what it means to take incoming rounds and knows the accomplishment of being able to plant our colors or see the person who was killed beside you draped in those colors I think I will adhere to the Flag Code until court ordered to change it...Bladed wrote:Per the U.S. Supreme Court, the U.S. Flag Code is not enforceable (and would be unconstitutional) as a law; it is simply a codification of appropriate (but not mandated) etiquette relating to the American flag. From a legal standpoint, flying the Mexican flag above the U.S. flag is on par with neglecting to say "excuse me" after you belch (rude but not illegal).croc870 wrote:I think what bladed is saying is that although the flag code has the language, the Supreme Court has said that such a law is unconstitutional when the violation is a form of expression, and thus it is not illegal.
I have no idea what you mean by "until court ordered to change it."
- Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:15 pm
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- Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:02 pm
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Per the U.S. Supreme Court, the U.S. Flag Code is not enforceable (and would be unconstitutional) as a law; it is simply a codification of appropriate (but not mandated) etiquette relating to the American flag. From a legal standpoint, flying the Mexican flag above the U.S. flag is on par with neglecting to say "excuse me" after you belch (rude but not illegal).croc870 wrote:I think what bladed is saying is that although the flag code has the language, the Supreme Court has said that such a law is unconstitutional when the violation is a form of expression, and thus it is not illegal.
- Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:27 am
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Contrary to the claim made in this (five-year-old) news story, there is nothing illegal* about flying the Mexican flag above the U.S. flag. However, as Wendy Davis's supporters recently demonstrated at the Texas Capitol, the best recourse when you disagree with the lawful action of another is to take the law into your own hands and, irrespective of any code or statute your action might violate, force compliance with your personal views.
*Texas v. Johnson (1989); United States v. Eichman (1990)
EDITED TO ADD: Does anyone else see the irony of this video getting a "clapping" smiley from someone whose sig line reads, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to my death your right to say it"?
*Texas v. Johnson (1989); United States v. Eichman (1990)
EDITED TO ADD: Does anyone else see the irony of this video getting a "clapping" smiley from someone whose sig line reads, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to my death your right to say it"?