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Dadtodabone wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote: Wow...you spent time on this...lol

5-10 minutes? I'm a frustrated History major with a captive audience and a very good memory.

Dadtodabone wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

WildBill wrote:

puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?

What about a pair of pants, scissors or pliers?

I've often wondered about that my own self.

Pants/Trousers evolved from fitted stockings, pantaloons/trews, that were made and donned individually. Long tunics would cover the join for warmth and modesty's sake.
Parenthetically it was the shortening of the tunic during the Medieval Warm Period, that led to the creation of the codpiece which joined the pairs.
A modern iteration of the codpiece can be found in the U.S. Navy enlisted mans trousers.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/s ... 01_92.aspx

Instruments and tools which feature identical limbs which are joined have always been referred to in the plural. Calipers, tweezers, scissors, pliers. Scissors is a plural noun; thus "a scissors" would be wrong. To refer indefinitely to one unit, one should always use pair, as in "a pair of scissors". With the definite article the and the plural adjectives these and those, pair does not have to be used: those scissors are terrible, try these scissors, the scissors are bad, etc.

puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?

WildBill wrote:

Abraham wrote:hillfighter,

Of course, I'm often irritated, it's part of my job as a practicing curmudgeon.

Now, get off my lawn!

?? Practicing?? I thought you were already a professional.

budroux2w wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote:I seen that happen to...

I seen what you did there

Abraham wrote:For some reason people can't seem to spell: QUIET

Instead they spell it: Quite

Abraham wrote:Prolly, it's just so cutesy...

Or, maybe the "Prolly" folk actually think "Probably" is spelled that way...

Redneck_Buddha wrote:Here's a list of pet-peeve pleonasms, from the Department of Redundancy Department. Not only are they redundancies that are strung together, but they also contain a bunch of words that are unnecessary:

-"Past history"
-"Pre-planning"
-"ATM machine"
-"End result"
-"Totally necessary"
-"Basic fundamentals"
-"Circulating around"
-"Close proximity"
-"Pair of twins"
-"Dual tandem"
-"Unsolved mystery"
-"True facts"
-"Rio Grande River"
-"Somewhat unique"

Some of these may be open for debate.

While we are at it, let's give a thought to these phrases and words:

"Chalant" (in case you really do care)
"I've told you a million times, stop exaggerating!"
"Half the lies we are told are untrue."
"It's deja vu all over again" - Yogi Berra
"When you hit a fork in the road, take it" - also Y.B.
"If we do not succeed, the risk of failure greatly increases."

anygunanywhere wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote:and BTW, when my daughter says 'literally', there is no 't' in it...kids nowadays do not enunciate for diddly...lol

Prolly.

Anygunanywhere