I saw them as recently as Spring of 2006. Go to any vehicle entrance such as Drive of Champions off of Brownfield, Main St off of University, or the International Cultural Center parking lot. I don't remember as many on the south side of campus.HEMIzygote wrote:Where??? I have been going to school there for 4 years and have not seen one sign related to firearms except for in the stadium parking lots, and those weren't 30.06.JohnWayne wrote:
2) TTU has large 30.06 signs at all entrances to campus.
Have you seen these recently or back in the day?
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- Thu May 03, 2007 8:41 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30.06 Valid?
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- Thu May 03, 2007 12:23 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30.06 Valid?
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I was really trying to make two points:
1) A government-owned hospital cannot use 30.06 to prohibit you from entering. Of course, a private hospital can post 30.06 and it is enforceable. See TPC § 30.06(e):
The crux of the matter is that the original poster should not worry about the 30.06 signs at the entrances to the TTU campus, nor should they worry about the 30.06 signs on the entrance to government-owned hospital or professional building. It's quite ironic that this is taking place in the town that GWB calls his "political weather vane".
Jeff
1) A government-owned hospital cannot use 30.06 to prohibit you from entering. Of course, a private hospital can post 30.06 and it is enforceable. See TPC § 30.06(e):
2) TTU has large 30.06 signs at all entrances to campus. Their intent is to keep you from carrying anywhere on campus - not just on the physical premises as defined by TPC § 30.06(f)(3):It is an exception to the application of this section
that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is
owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or
other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying
the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Again, a private business can post enforceable 30.06 on their parking lots if they desire. The way the law reads, a private school is an educational institution, and thus the parking lots, etc are protected by the definition of premises in the penal code. Anyone have an opinion on that?"Premises" means a building or a portion of a
building. The term does not include any public or private driveway,
street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other
parking area.
The crux of the matter is that the original poster should not worry about the 30.06 signs at the entrances to the TTU campus, nor should they worry about the 30.06 signs on the entrance to government-owned hospital or professional building. It's quite ironic that this is taking place in the town that GWB calls his "political weather vane".
Jeff
- Wed May 02, 2007 10:27 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: 30.06 Valid?
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A hospital cannot simultaneously be an educational institution. Therefore, you can go into the UMC (south) side without a problem even if they have 30.06 signs since it is government-owned (Lubbock County Hospital District) not otherwise prohibited. The HSC (north) side is off-limits since it is an educational institution (TTUHSC).
You can ignore all the 30.06 signs that TTU has at all the entrances to campus since you can explicitly carry anywhere but the premises of the school, which basically means anywhere but the buildings. I fought a long battle a few years ago to get them taken down, but the TTU General Counsel's attitude was they they were in compliance with all laws by having them posted, which is true - there is no law against posting a meaningless sign.
MD Anderson is another place that is a hospital and, thus, cannot be an educational institution. The lines between hospital and educational may get a bit fuzzy there, but you're probably safe in any other clinic buildings. They have 30.06s which you can safely ignore. It's probably the same situation for other UTMB facilities.
Jeff
You can ignore all the 30.06 signs that TTU has at all the entrances to campus since you can explicitly carry anywhere but the premises of the school, which basically means anywhere but the buildings. I fought a long battle a few years ago to get them taken down, but the TTU General Counsel's attitude was they they were in compliance with all laws by having them posted, which is true - there is no law against posting a meaningless sign.
MD Anderson is another place that is a hospital and, thus, cannot be an educational institution. The lines between hospital and educational may get a bit fuzzy there, but you're probably safe in any other clinic buildings. They have 30.06s which you can safely ignore. It's probably the same situation for other UTMB facilities.
Jeff