This, by all accounts, was a TXCOCI meeting or Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents meeting. The main purpose of these meetings is to look at motorcycle laws related to Texas, go over biker rights issues, and to promote safer motorcycling for all. They just recently got the state to release a large amount of funds they were withholding to promote motorcycle awareness. They even marched on the capital. A large majority of the clubs (yes clubs not organized gangs) were there for this reason. This is a tragedy but not only for the lives lost but the liberty that is being trampled over here.. Over hundred INNOCENT people that were arrested under Title 11, Section 71.02 for organized crime.
This is just one report on the incident. Everyone you read is different.
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Apparently everyone on a bike was classified as in a gang so its hard to tell who was shot. What I think it should say is all 9 were bikers because we know that for sure. So it looks like 2 separate groups of people in two different fights? It doesnt really say anywhere who had guns. Did 9 people have guns? How many people had a gun out of the 9 that were shot? Who shot them? lots of unknowns here. Last I checked there are video cameras at Twin Peaks. No one on a cell phone had video? Seems odd nothing is circulating. Wonder where all the video is?Eighteen uniformed Waco police officers including an assistant chief, sergeants and one rookie were standing by outside the restaurant Sunday and responded within a matter of seconds after the violence broke out between members of five rival gangs, Swanton said.
Three of the dead were found in the parking lot just outside of the restaurant, four were found in front of the building and one had been dragged behind a neighboring restaurant, Swanton said. All nine were members of two of the five gangs involved in the melee, he said.
] This doesn't say how many were legal, how many might be ccl, or that a chain with a lock is a terrific way to lock up something that can be stolen by carrying it off. I had one on my old bike I locked up to a pole at work.. Old Harleys had a loop on the forks just for this before all the electronic gizmos came out. Was this a total count of everyone in the restaurant? What else was considered a weapon? I dont see a list yet..About 50 weapons were recovered at the shooting scene including guns, knives and a chain with a padlock that could be used to beat someone, police said Monday.[/i
So they arrested people in the area because they were on motorcycles? Seems legit.. Apparently they saw fewer bikes in the area today.. Go figure?Patrol officers have arrested a few bikers in the area, he said, and report that they are seeing fewer bikers Tuesday.
So everyone on this forum is good with every person there being arrested and arraigned on organized crime charges? Will the next time this happens be a gun show? Could you be there? Maybe a good old open carry rally because thats such a popular cause. End of the day they arrested everyone there.McNamara said his staff is capable of handling the influx and there is ample room to keep them all until their court dates begin to be set.
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Every person on a motorcycle was now in a gang.i]"We've had to make sure (the inmates) are separated by gang," McNarama said.
Sounds like freedom and liberty to me.
Yes so the police wanted to restrict the right of these individuals to assemble based on a fight at another event from two weeks ago. The comments in the reports are pick and choose over two weeks. Sorry saying every person on a bike is a violent criminal is like saying every gun owner is a criminal.On Monday, however, Swanton said the restaurant’s owners were not cooperative with police.
“They have some answering not only to do to you, but to our community as well,” he told reporters.
Except this wasnt a bike night which is typically a local event. It was a hosted event by an organization.The statement said the restaurant has hosted seven Bike Nights since last fall “without altercations such as this.”
I mean what did they think was going to happen.. A few hundred bikes come sneaking up on the crime scene and open fire? Sensationalized by the police..Snipers were positioned on the restaurant’s roof and on overpasses that overlook the crime scene to protect not only investigators, but also the media gathered to cover the shooting
I can't believe on this forum there isnt more people posting that there is a lot of misleading information. So much of this doesnt make sense. How do the 18 injured others play into this and who injured them? If everything gun related started outside with 22 officers standing there, what escalated things and how did it happen? Seems pretty unlikely you pull a gun with 22 officers standing right there. Why would officers expect retaliation from gang members shooting other gang members and stopping them from shooting others?? Here is another report from a biker friendly site: http://www.agingrebel.com/12873" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This actually makes more sense then anything I have read but once again who knows? Honestly seems like a Saturday night on 6th street that went badly wrong due to the number of leos standing by waiting on something to happen. I can see more bikers heading to Waco to protest. They arrested every single person on a bike? Lots of content here to nibble at the bits. Feel free to flame it, I have thick skin.The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.